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This report contains the Module 4
Content for the following comments:
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,123,124,125,126,127,129,130,131,132,133,134
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Comment 1 ( Arizona Department Of
Economic Security, Division Of Aging And Adult Services, Community
Action Programs And Services (Daas/Caps) ; State in AZ)
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Module 4: Module 4 -
Individual and Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4,
Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52)
The State CSBG State office shares concerns with
the State’s Community Action Network and the Community
Action Partnership on this module. The data requested may not
provide valuable information since Community Action agencies serve
the majority of participants once in a given program year. The
State CSBG Office believes that this data may be more valuable
over time, than in an individual program year. The State and the
Network concur that Section A and B will create challenges with
CAA’s reporting systems. The State CSBG office also agrees
this report should be removed.
Module 4, Section B:
All Characteristics Report: (page # 53-54)
Items 13 and 14:
The State CSBG Office would like to have the opportunity to
identify households earning income from self-employment,
independent contracting, small business, or family businesses. The
development of resources and opportunity for families to achieve
economic sustainability through entrepreneurship and microbusiness
enterprises is of interest to Community Action at large.
Identifying these households at the local level could provide
valuable insights into serving this population. This information
would be especially useful for agencies and their partners
operating or considering asset development and adult education
programs. There appears to be an assumption that low-income
individuals are either conventionally employed or not. The
category “Other” is too insufficient to be useful. The
economic climate in recent years has taken a toll on small and
family owned businesses, and led many families who depend upon
this type of income to seek assistance.
Module 4,
Section C: Individual and Family NPIs: (page # 55)
The State
CSBG Office concurs with the following comment made by the
Community Action Partnership: “The indicators selected and
included in the clearance package are not helpful or practical
when reporting customers stabilized as a result of the eligible
entity’s work. One option duplicates data already collected
and the second uses a tool that defines financial stability based
on a construct the uses assumptions drawn from the general
population, not low-income individuals and families specifically.”
The State CSBG Office is also concerned regarding technical
methods for responding to a locally aggregated question. The State
CSBG Office also concurs that the reporting mechanism may impact
Public entities’ decision making processes when contracting
with local and neighborhood providers in the community that may
not be technologically able to provide the requested data. The
State also agrees with the Network regarding Section C, which
refers to tracking of clients at 180 days. Most CAAs do not have
the funding resources to track clients receiving services for that
length of time (accept for WIOA clients). Many also do not have
the resources to track outcomes over multiple time periods. This
would result in spotty reporting, and reduce the value of State
aggregated data. Recommend removing it from Employment, Income and
Asset Building, Housing, and Health and Social/Behavioral
Development.
The State CSBG Office concurs with the
following comment made by the Community Action Partnership:
“Include a 4th ROMA Goal: Agencies Increase their capacity
to achieve results. Reinstate this national goal that addressed
the critical role the network of local agencies serving 99% of US
counties plays in addressing poverty. Reasons for exclusion have
been inadequate to date. Because agency capacity is critical to
the ultimate success of programs and services, it is important to
clearly state this objective in the overall National Goals. This
also highlights the broader need of the Network for ongoing
training, technical assistance, and general capacity-building
supports.” This goal is contained in the CSBG statute, and
goes hand in hand with improving the communities the agencies
serve.
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Comment 2 ( Clarity, Impact And
Performance Project Steering Committee; RPIC in ID)
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Module 4: Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
Currently, we are not able to fully unduplicated the data
provided in the participant characteristics section due to
different systems used for those programs we report on in this
section (Service Point and Opus). In the new version, this will
remain the same, and given the option now to report an estimated
number of individuals/households not included in the report, data
from either Opus or Service Point will need to be pulled out into
this estimated number which will result in decreased unduplicated
numbers being reported.
Disconnected Youth – We
do not currently collect or have a way to collect this data for
participants in the programs included in this report.
Work
Status, Health Insurance Sources, Non-Cash Benefits – we
will have limited data to report in these sections because this
information is not available for all participants included in this
report.
Module 4, Section B: All Characteristics
Report: (page # 53-54)
Currently, we are not able to fully
unduplicated the data provided in the participant characteristics
section due to different systems used for those programs we report
on in this section (Service Point and Opus). In the new version,
this will remain the same, and given the option now to report an
estimated number of individuals/households not included in the
report, data from either Opus or Service Point will need to be
pulled out into this estimated number which will result in
decreased unduplicated numbers being reported.
Disconnected
Youth – We do not currently collect or have a way to collect
this data for participants in the programs included in this
report.
Work Status, Health Insurance Sources,
Non-Cash Benefits – we will have limited data to report in
these sections because this information is not available for all
participants included in this report.
Module 4,
Section C: Individual and Family NPIs: (page # 55)
Employment-
Idaho will define “living wage” as 200% for
consistency across the network, but what about other states? This
again points to the fact that agreed upon definitions are
necessary in order to insure any integrity and relevancy of the
data.
Education and Cognitive Development-
Kindergarten readiness, obtaining GED or diploma and
post-secondary education or training goals are a match to CLIPP
metrics. Income and Asset Building- CLIPP metric of adding money
to savings matches 4, Reduction of debt to income ratio is a CLIPP
metric not shown here.
Housing- if someone has housing
for longer than 180 days- are they also reported in the longer
than 90 days metric? What about timing of those who get housing
near the end of the reporting period, where is the metric
reported? Add those in crisis to designate those who receive
assistance or those in immediate threat of foreclosure CLIPP
metric of fewer households experiencing home energy loss is not
shown; spending less of income on home energy is covered in 7.
Health and Social/Behavioral Development- Please
define case management program or similar intensive program? There
are a lot of variances possible with this definition; meaningful
for Head Start; this is a subjective measure. If someone is living
independent for longer than 180 days- are they also reported in
the longer than 90 days metric? What about timing of those who
achieve independent living near the end of the reporting period,
where is the metric reported? What does living independent
situation mean? What does recidivating event mean? Does the six
months begin at intake? CLIPP metrics related to increased sense
of control and options are more detailed than those shown here.
Civic Engagement/Community Involvement-1. Why is this
specific to Community Action program participants instead of "the
number of"; does this mean low-income volunteers? Policy
Council? 1a.-1c. - What does this mean? This seems to be the same
question broken down in different ways. 3 of the CLIPP metrics
regarding expanded social networks and connections are not shown
here; individuals spend more hours volunteering or supporting
others in their community is shown in 1.
Stability- We
are unclear whether this part of this section is required or not.
If it is required, it will be extremely problematic to get
unduplicated counts.
Stability 2. - Please clarify
whether the abbreviated survey can be used.
Module 4,
Section C: Individual and Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
Clarification is needed for these sections. If we choose
indicators within a particular domain to report on in Section C,
are we then responsible to report on that same domain in Section
D, or does Section D work in the same way as Section C (i.e. we
are able to choose which ones are relevant and have data to report
on)?
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI
Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
Clarification is needed for
these sections. If we choose indicators within a particular domain
to report on in Section C, are we then responsible to report on
that same domain in Section D, or does Section D work in the same
way as Section C (i.e. we are able to choose which ones are
relevant and have data to report on)?
Module 4,
Section D: Individual and Family Services: (page # 68-75)
Support
Services- Transportation Services CLIPP metric is based on
households spending less time "getting where they need to go"
Support Services- Immigration Support Services CLIPP
metric is more detailed; more adults achieve their goal of
obtaining legal status/citizenship and more children achieve their
goal of obtaining legal status/citizenship- these services are not
covered in this metric.
Civic Engagement and Community
Involvement Services- What does voter education and access mean?
How would this be tracked?
Clarification is needed for
these sections. If we choose indicators within a particular domain
to report on in Section C, are we then responsible to report on
that same domain in Section D, or does Section D work in the same
way as Section C (i.e. we are able to choose which ones are
relevant and have data to report on)?
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Comment 3 ( Hill Country Community
Action Association, Inc. ; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in TX)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 4 ( Sacramento Employment And
Training Agency (Seta) ; Other/Unknown in CA)
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Module 4: Regarding Module 4,
Section C, Stability Indicators, households do not just reach
stability and move ahead in their lives. Rather, it is more like
ripples on a pond as households make incremental progress after a
disruptive event.
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Comment 5 (Action For Better
Community ; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in NY)
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Module 4: The agency finds no
practical use for a separate client characteristics report based
on new customers. First, the agency does not currently have a
definition of “new customer” – this would
require some agency staff time and training to establish. Second,
the definition of new customer would presumably vary from agency
to agency, making aggregate data of little use. Finally, the
agency emphasizes that what it DOES find practical, is an analysis
of services and outcomes and which are in greater or less demand,
and which are achieved at greater or lower rates. That information
is useful to the agency. Having obtained that information, the
agency would only then ask if an influx of customers with
different characteristics was one of many potential variables
affecting these changes. Starting with that variable is not
something the agency would currently consider to be an effective
use of time and resources.
Module 4, Section C
The
agency considers the stability indicators to be of no practical
value. The agency and its customers do not consider National
Performance indicators to be measures of successful outcomes. It
would not be sensible to aggregate the customers achieving one or
more NPIs and claim that those customers achieved a greater degree
of stability relative to those customers that did not.
The
same logic applies to “improved financial well-being.”
The agency and its customers do not use this construction; instead
customers have more concrete goals with milestones that lead to
the achievement of those goals. While the agency could use
“progress toward goals related to financial well-being”
as an indicator of stability, this still excludes customers with
important stability-related goals that are NOT directly connected
to financial well-being. For this reason, the agency considers
this measure unnecessary and of no practical benefit.
Module
4, Section A
The reporting of new customer characteristics
offers no practical benefit to the agency, but comes at some
additional cost. It is recommended that this requirement be
removed.
Module 4, Section C
For the reasons described
previously – the variation of how agencies and customers
define stability, the irrelevance to customers of the National
Indicators and the narrowness of the “financial well-being”
concept – it is recommended that the Stability Indicators be
removed.
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Comment 6 (Action For Boston
Community Development Inc.; Other/Unknown in MA)
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Module 4: * Module 4:
Characteristics for New Individuals and Households Report. The
utility of this information is unclear, and there are such
significant definitional and practical challenges in data
collection that aggregated data is likely to be meaningless. The
populations served by Community Action Agencies are fluid, in that
individual clients may participate in different services over
multiple years, and may move in and out of contact with the
agency; because no definition of “new’ is provided in
the guidance, reported numbers will be ambiguous. In any case, our
experience is that basic demographic characteristics of this kind
will add little value to agency or state analysis; there are
certainly many more accurate, sensitive, and rapid methods of
tracking changing community needs, if that is the intention.
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Comment 7 (Allegany County Community
Opportunities And Rural Development, Inc. (Accord); Eligible
Entity/Local Agency in NY)
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Section A: Characteristics for
NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52) Remove the
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households Report. This
report has no practical utility at the local level given the time
and expense to create it at each local agency. This is not
necessary for agency performance, and the intentions outlined by
OCS for its use are not reflective of how local agencies and
states look at their communities to assess needs, develop
programs, and report progress. It also lacks utility at the state
level given that data such as this rolled up to the state level
will be skewed by large population centers and decrease the
practical utility of the data even further. While we have a data
collection system that may allow us to track this, it will be very
time consuming and of no use to us overall. It would be a struggle
to integrate the required data given their use of multiple (and
sometimes incompatible) reporting systems. We serve families over
time and with no definition of “new” being provided
for review, the CSBG Network will be unable to implement this
report consistently. Defining an individual or family as new
becomes challenging when they may receive different services over
many years (e.g. Early Head Start, child care, after school
programs, youth programs, job training, WIC, food boxes, LIHEAP,
etc.).
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI
Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
The indicators selected and
included in the clearance package are not helpful or practical
when reporting customers stabilized as a result of the eligible
entity’s work. One option duplicates data already collected
and the second uses a tool that defines financial stability based
on a construct the uses assumptions drawn from the general
population, not low-income individuals and families specifically.
Because financial well-being means something very different for
the low-income population in comparison to the general population,
use of the scale will produce data of limited utility.
Include
a 4th ROMA Goal: Agencies Increase their capacity to achieve
results. Reinstate this national goal that addressed the critical
role the network of local agencies serving 99% of US counties
plays in addressing poverty. Reasons for exclusion have been
inadequate to date. Because agency capacity is critical to the
ultimate success of programs and services, it is important to
clearly state this objective in the overall National Goals. This
also highlights the broader need of the Network for ongoing
training, technical assistance, and general capacity-building
supports.
Finally, the agency’s’
estimated time burden of 242 hours per sub-grantee (local
Community Action Agency) is low. The burden of providing an
estimate of the time it would take at this point is beyond our
scope, due to time limitations. Given the broad spectrum of
systems and individual jobs that would be impacted, not to mention
training, QI, and the need to develop data sharing systems in our
community and between our funding sources seems, the time will be
substantial and must be found with no additional funding.
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Comment 8 (Ashtabula County Community
Action Agency; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in OH)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 9 (Association Of Nationally
Certified Roma Trainers ; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in N/A)
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Module 4: One area needing
clarity is the proposed two demographic reports. While we support
agencies reporting on an unduplicated count of all individuals and
families served by local agencies, we are not completely convinced
that the use of "new" characteristics report will be
worth the burden to disaggregate these individuals from the whole
data base of demographics. More
clarity related to how the
two different reports would be used is needed.
A second
area is the so called "stability indicators" which do
not capture much of the work that agencies do to help families
become stable (moving from in-crisis or vulnerable status). We
support the use of stability indicators, but feel they must more
accurately describe this first step on the continuum to
self-sufficiency or economic stability. We recommend language that
would demonstrate the number and percent of individuals and
families who avoided or reduced a crisis.
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Comment 10 (Blue Valley Community
Action Partnership; Other/Unknown in NB)
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Module 4: I also have concerns
as to year to year tracking of clients since many partnering
entities do not track such clients beyond the current year. I laud
the idea of multi-year tracking, I just wonder how the tracking
and reporting will follow … most grants want yearly totals,
while in process numbers do not reflect accomplishments.
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Comment 11 (California Community
Action Partnership Association; Other/Unknown in CA)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 12 (Cap Service ;
Other/Unknown in WI)
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Module 4: Module 4: Remove the
Stability Indicators. Poverty is complex and fluid. The indicators
selected and included in the clearance package are not helpful or
practical when reporting customers stabilized as a result of the
eligible entity's work. One option duplicates data already
collected and the second uses a tool that defines financial
stability based on a construct the uses assumptions drawn from the
general population, not low-income individuals and families
specifically. Because financial wellbeing means something very
different for the low-income population in comparison to the
general population, use of the scale will produce data of limited
utility.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI
Landing Page: (page # 55-57). We are in agreement with the
Partnership feedback and would ask that you please remove the
indicator for 180 days except in cases when reporting in
conjunction with the Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act
(WIOA) when this time frame is required. CAP Services is not
provided funding to track for that period of time, leading to an
inability to report the data and a possible impression of
under-performance. Remove it from Employment, Income and Asset
Building, Housing, and Health and Social/Behavioral Development.
Data collection systems used by agencies also simply lack the
fields or variables to track time-related data, making collection
of this information burdensome at best and impossible at
worst.
Module 4 Please also remove the Stability
Indicators. The options available do not provide data to answer
the question on the data collection form on page 67, "The
following outcome indicators answer the following commonly asked
question: How many people (or families) are 'better off/lives
improved' because of CAAs work?" The first option is
duplicative effort to collect the data, and does not provide
meaningful information. The second option uses a survey not
specific to families with low-incomes and is too general to
provide information needed or sought. In short, the scale is an
inappropriate measure and will not result in the collection of
useful data.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family
NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67) • remove this statement
from the data form: Note: Tracking outcomes for 180 days is the
standard that agencies are expected to work toward. This sweeping
statement leads one to believe the future expectation will be much
broader than currently expected and exceed our capacity and the
resources available to complete. It should be edited to clearly
state this is limited to Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act
(WIOA) activity.
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Comment 13 (Cattaraugus Community
Action, Inc.; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in NY)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 14 (Center For Community
Future ; Other/Unknown in N/A)
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Module 4:
MY COMMENT. If
OCS and NASCSP want to find out what change(s) a CAA is helping to
produce in individuals, rather than trying to do it across the
entire CSBG network through ROMA Next Gen, then OCS should fund or
require evaluations at the CAA level.
DISCUSSION. For
$25,000 to $50,000, a CAA could hire a university professor who
would help them structure and manage a three- to five year
evaluation of a program or strategy that would provide insights
about, and maybe even evidence of, changes the CAA helped create.
OCS could fund these evaluations as separate projects.
OCS required and funded evaluations as part of the Demonstration
Partnership Program awards in the late 1980’s. About 80
evaluations were done. Those evaluations helped microbusiness and
family development strategies expand and go to scale.
OCS
could simply require that CAA’s do an evaluation using their
block-grant pass through money. OCS does not now require
evaluations of what CAA’s do with block grant money. In
1979-81, CSA mandated as part of the nationwide Grantee Program
Management System that every CAA must do an evaluation on one of
their programs every three years, using money from their ongoing
CSA allocation. It was a good requirement then, and it would be a
good one now.
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Comment 15 (Center For Community
Futures; Other/Unknown in CA)
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No Module 4 Content for this
comment.
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Comment 16 (Central Missouri
Community Action ; Other/Unknown in MO)
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Module 4: Module 4 -
Individual and Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4,
Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52)
• T/TA may be needed to ensure proper
collecting of information, including clarity around the definition
of “new”. How will this data be used?
Module
4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Landing Page: (page #
55-57)
• These make sense, but could still be condensed
some. Not sure if the general ones, such as Education #6 or Civic
Engagement #1c, are necessary as NPIs, but possibly just local
indicators.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family
NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
• The planning
accuracy percentage does not seem necessary for the annual report,
but is good for local evaluation. This would also be a need for
T/TA so agencies know how to do this correctly and improve
targeting.
• The 180 day follow-up was somewhat
of a concern, but the Missouri State CSBG Administration has
implemented an extended case management option for FY17 to assist
CAA’s with following clients. This allows for case
management services to continue with clients who have exceeded
125% of poverty for up to 2 years to help with maintenance of
outcomes and stability. Even so, T/TA emphasis may be needed on
continued engagement and client follow-up.
• Page
67: Stability, #2 – In Missouri, we use the Missouri Family
Self-Sufficiency Scale which already includes a subscale on income
that we could revise slightly to get more direct information for
this indicator. We would propose the option to do this rather than
use an additional scale.
Overall, we agree with the
need to improve reporting and data collection in community action.
However, it should be manageable with the resources agencies have
available. This is not to say that requirements should not be put
above where many agencies are to obligate improvement, but the
improvement should be possible and with adequate support. We know
this work is important and do not want the inability of some to
meet the requirements or provide adequate data to cause community
action to appear ineffective. The NPIs should be able to be
aggregated at the national level, be meaningful to decision
makers, and show the effectiveness of community action.
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Comment 17 (Central Nebraska
Community Action Partnership; Other/Unknown in NE)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 18 (City Of Austin Health And
Human Services ; State in TX)
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Module 4: Module 4 -
Individual and Family Level: (pages 51-75)
The current
reports we submit are clearer in terms of new (unduplicated) along
with ongoing (cumulative) clients. New vs. All Characteristics is
more confusing. Several new data points are being added here as
well, which will mean additional time and energy spent on
gathering all the data. Please consider prioritizing what data is
most important to collect to demonstrate the greatest impact of
our work. It will also be important that those of us who report on
these measures get clear instructions on what is meant by some of
the terminology, and how we are expected to gather the data and
document it. For example, how do you determine if someone has
increased their social network? What documentation would we be
expected to gather to support the increase?
We are
very concerned about the move to try and track clients for 180
days (6 months). It is already difficult for us to keep people
engaged for 90 days to provide us all the documentation we are
required to keep and report. In addition, if we are truly
dedicated to helping people gain self-sufficiency as quickly as
possible, so they no longer need to rely on our services, tracking
them for 180 days seems counterintuitive.
Module 4,
Section D: Individual and Family Services seems to repeat a lot of
the information already gathered in Section C. Please consider
streamlining all these elements as much as possible, to decrease
duplicative reporting in multiple different sections. These are
all good strategies that could be recommended to get to the data
reported in the earlier section, but it is not clear how valuable
it is to list all of these individual strategies and gather data
on each one of them.
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Comment 19 (Colorado Community Action
Association; State Association in CO)
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Module 4: Individual and
Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
·
The reporting of the number and characteristics of customers
served by CEE’s each year is important data to be collected
and is required by the CSBG Act. However, the proposed Baseline
Characteristic Report will require additional work for local CEE’s
(and is often not possible for many CEE’s given their
current data collection systems), and will not provide information
that is useful or comparable at a state or national level. A
report such as the proposed Baseline Characteristic Report has
little value, usefulness or integrity given how local agencies
operate and how customers access services. It would be a much
better use of resources to develop tools to help local agencies do
internal analysis rather than attempt to have an aggregate report
at the state or federal level. Improved local analysis would be a
significant outcome for ROMA Next Generation (but is not currently
encompassed in the proposed changes).
Module 4, Section
B: All Characteristics Report: (page # 53-54)
· For
all individuals/families not included in this report (questions
below the unduplicated individuals and families questions):
collecting this information in this manner will be ineffective and
will not be useful at the state/national level. Make this an open
ended question or remove it from the section.
Module 4,
Section C: Individual and Family NPIs: (page # 55)
Agree
with the Community Action Partnership’s comment on this
section: Remove the Stability Indicators. The options available do
not provide data to answer the question on the data collection
form on page 67, “The following outcome indicators answer
the following commonly asked question: How many people (or
families) are 'better off/lives improved’ because of CAAs
work?” The first option is duplicative effort to collect the
data, and does not provide meaningful information. The second
option uses a survey that is not specific to families with
low-incomes and is too general to provide information needed or
sought. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau’s Financial
Well-Being Scale relies on assumptions and definitions about what
constitutes “well-being” drawn from the general
population. This will result in the collection of data of limited
utility for two reasons. First, compared to what constitutes
financial well-being as defined by working and middle class
Americans, the large majority of agency customers will be at the
lowest end of the scale, meaning there will be little variance in
the data to allow for meaningful comparison. Second, what
constitutes successful outcomes for most agency customers would
only result in slight changes on the scale. For example, doubling
savings from $50 to $100 a month would be represent a substantial
gain for many CAA customers, but would not register on a scale
that defines financial well-being based on the assumptions and
experiences of the average American. In short, the scale is an
inappropriate measure and will not result in the collection of
useful data.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family
NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
N/A
Module 4, Section
C: Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
N/A
Module 4, Section D: Individual and Family
Services: (page # 68-75)
N/A
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Comment 20 (Colorado Department Of
Local Affairs ; Other/Unknown in CO)
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Module 4: No Comments
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Comment 21 (Combined Community Action
; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in TX)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 22 (Community Action Agency ;
Other/Unknown in NE)
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Module 4: Module 4 -
Individual and Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4,
Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52)
This requirement seems unnecessary. If it is to
compare the change between “New” with “All”,
it will not produce that.
Module 4, Section B: All
Characteristics Report: (page # 53-54)
Module 4,
Section C: Individual and Family NPIs: (page # 55)
Module
4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Landing Page: (page #
55-57)
What if there are NPIs that do not fit into any of
the descriptions?
Module 4, Section C: Individual and
Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
It will take so
much time to gather target numbers on all the NPIs from all of our
departments.
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Comment 23 (Community Action Agency
Of Beaver County ; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in PA)
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Module 4: mission of CAAs in
our communities. Furthermore, our agency like many other agencies
throughout our state and, I would surmise, throughout the country,
does not currently have the capacity to provide a truly
unduplicated number of people receiving services by domain. Many
of our services such as energy assistance and housing/homeless
services have separate data reporting systems in our area. The
sole purpose that these areas are difficult to track. I also have
concerns as to year to year tracking of clients since many
partnering entities do not track such clients beyond the current
year. I laud the idea of multi-year tracking, I just wonder how
the tracking and reporting will follow … most grants want
yearly totals, while in process numbers do not reflect
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Comment 24 (Community Action Agency
Of Butte County Inc. ; Other/Unknown in CA)
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Module 4: The All Measures
Report of the Annual Report process seems to be a reasonable
modification. However the Baseline Measures Report exceeds the
ability of many in the network to reasonably complete and should
then be omitted. The effort that will be necessary to put into the
completion of a Baseline Report will exceed its utility both
locally and at other levels. Other sources of measurement are more
cost-effective in seeking to identify a baseline of conditions
without going the extra distance (including time, resources and
more) of creating an entirely new set of descriptors from data
that may or may not be available easily (translate affordably).
While the use of the current NPI structure is considered a
snapshot in time it is conceivable that more work could be done to
enhance the utility of existing data sets over time.
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Comment 25 (Community Action Agency
Of North Alabama ; Other/Unknown in AL)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 26 (Community Action Agency
Of Northwest Alabama, Inc.; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in AL)
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No Module 4 Content for this
comment.
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Comment 27 (Community Action Agency
Of Northwest Alabama, Inc.; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in AL)
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Module 4: Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
Not sure what “new’ means in this context. Would
characteristics be for new clients or new services or would
households that split be considered new? A new and separate
characteristic report should not be needed.
Module 4,
Section C: Individual and Family NPIs: (page # 55)
Why does
the NPI’s need a ‘percent’ for outcomes?
Tracking for 90 or 180 days is unrealistic and sets up an
atmosphere of having to ‘meet’ the indicator. The
loser is the household requesting assistance which the agency
cannot meet due to making follow-up a priority. ALL 90-180 days
criteria should be removed. Case management is not about meeting a
3 to 6 month date. People obtain financial independency and
self-sufficiency at different levels. Individual and families
themselves must determine what self-sufficiency is to their
household.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family
NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
‘Stability’ is
redundant and should be removed. When a client is enrolled in the
“income and Asset Building’, the ‘stability’
question is answered by meeting the indicator outcome.
Module
4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page #
56-67)
The second of 3 layers to the NPI’s. A format
should be picked without having to go to another ‘layer’
to answer the same question in a different way. The
‘levels/layers’ are unnecessary. Of what use is the
‘target’ or ‘percentage”? Who uses this
number?
Module 4, Section D: Individual and Family
Services: (page # 68-75)
The third layer to reporting on the
same NPI’s as above. The third breakdown seems to have
little to no value in reporting on a state or federal level and
many of the items are the same answers already reported on earlier
pages. It looks more like a local level tool. Should be removed or
have the option of local agencies using for in-house purposes only
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Comment 28 (Community Action Agency
Of Northwest Alabama, Inc. ; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in AL)
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Module 4: Module 4 -
Individual and Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4,
Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52) Not sure what “new’ means in this context.
Would characteristics be for new clients or new services or would
households that split be considered new? A new and separate
characteristic report should not be needed.
Module 4,
Section C: Individual and Family NPIs: (page # 55) Why does the
NPI’s need a ‘percent’ for outcomes? Tracking
for 90 or 180 days is unrealistic and sets up an atmosphere of
having to ‘meet’ the indicator. The loser is the
household requesting assistance which the agency cannot meet due
to making follow-up a priority. ALL 90-180 days criteria should be
removed. Case management is not about meeting a 3 to 6 month date.
People obtain financial independency and self-sufficiency at
different levels. Individual and families themselves must
determine what self-sufficiency is to their household.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Landing Page: (page
# 55-57) ‘Stability’ is redundant and should be
removed. When a client is enrolled in the “income and Asset
Building’, the ‘stability’ question is answered
by meeting the indicator outcome.
Module 4, Section
C: Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67) The
second of 3 layers to the NPI’s. A format should be picked
without having to go to another ‘layer’ to answer the
same question in a different way. The ‘levels/layers’
are unnecessary. Of what use is the ‘target’ or
‘percentage”? Who uses this number?
Module 4, Section D: Individual and Family Services: (page #
68-75) The third layer to reporting on the same NPI’s as
above. The third breakdown seems to have little to no value in
reporting on a state or federal level and many of the items are
the same answers already reported on earlier pages. It looks more
like a local level tool. Should be removed or have the option of
local agencies using for in-house purposes only.
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Comment 29 (Community Action Agency
Of Southern New Mexico; State Association in NM)
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Module 4: Module 4 -
Individual and Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4,
Section B: All Characteristics Report: (page # 53-54)
Response:
Add “No Children” to the Household Type, Single. This
is confusing to “singles” who have children, but are
not married. Unmarried adults sometimes check “single”
even when they have children.
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Comment 30 (Community Action
Association ; State Association in NM)
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Module 4: - Individual and
Family Level (pages 51-75)
Module 4, Section B: All
Characteristics Report: (page #53-54)
Response: Add “No
Children” to the Household Type, Single. This is confusing
to “singles” who have children, but are not married.
Unmarried adults sometimes check “single” even when
they have children.
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Comment 31 (Community Action
Commission Of Erie, Huron, & Richland Counties ; Eligible
Entity/Local Agency in N/A)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 32 (Community Action
Committee Of Victoria, Texas; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in TX)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 33 (Community Action Council
; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in KY)
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Module 4: - Individual and
Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
The term NEW needs to be further defined to make this
category valid or useable. Participants frequently transition from
one community to another, and/or enroll in various programs
throughout the course of the year, so without a clearer definition
it will be very difficult to determine who should be counted as
NEW.
Module 4, Section D: Individual and Family
Services: (page # 68-75)
This data seems to be duplicated in
some areas and will not add much value to the information that is
currently being reported.
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Comment 34 (Community Action Council
Of Lexington-Fayette, Bourbon, Harrison And Nicholas Counties ;
Eligible Entity/Local Agency in KY)
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Module 4: - Individual and
Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
The term NEW needs to be further defined to make this
category valid or useable. Participants frequently transition from
one community to another, and/or enroll in various programs
throughout the course of the year, so without a clearer definition
it will be very difficult to determine who should be counted as
NEW.
Module 4, Section D: Individual and Family
Services: (page # 68-75)
This data seems to be duplicated in
some areas and will not add much value to the information that is
currently being reported.
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Comment 35 (Community Action Council
Of Portage County; Other/Unknown in OH)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 36 (Community Action
Partnership ; National Partner in DC)
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Module 4: Module 4: Individual
and Family Level
· Remove Section A, Characteristics
for NEW Individuals and Households Report, in its entirety.
This
report (1) is not necessary for the proper performance of agency
functions; (2) the collection of demographic data alone does not
provide the agency or State CSBG Lead Agency with meaningful
information for assessments; (3) there are significant problems
defining who constitutes a new individual and/or household; (4)
the data has very little meaning when aggregated and reported at
the state and federal levels; and (5) many current agency data
systems are challenged to produce this information without
significant modifications.
· Remove the 180 day
reporting indicator in Section C (except in cases of WIOA) and
change the introduction language that currently states this is the
expectation that all agencies should work towards. Local agencies
lack the capacity (staff, funding, access to customers for
follow-up, technology) to track data over such an extended period
of time; and (2) many agency data systems lack the appropriate
fields to track this data.
· Remove the
proposed stability indicators in Section C. Neither option
provided is appropriate to include. (1) The first option provided
is duplicative with regards to data collection, does not provide
meaningful information, and poses significant challenges with
local agencies’ data systems; and (2) the second option uses
a scale (the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau’s
Financial Well-Being scale) that is based on a construct not
designed for use with a low-income population and will therefore
produce misleading data.
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Comment 37 (Community Action
Partnership Of Kern ; Other/Unknown in CA)
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Module 4:– Individual
and Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
·
Remove this report in its entirety. It is not necessary for the
proper performance of the functions of the agency, and when rolled
up to the state, the information has no practical utility. At a
state level it will be misinterpreted and can be influenced by
what happens in larger population centers.
·
Two further points illustrate this issue. First, the
Characteristics report is of little use to determine if the agency
is responding to needs identified in its community assessment.
Demographic data alone does not identify the needs the new
customers may have and is therefore of limited utility in
comparison to data about individual, family, and community needs.
Second, since several core CAA programs (e.g. LIHEAP) have a large
number of new customers with limited or one time contact with the
agency, demographic data collected from the “low touch”
services would confuse meaningful analysis of demographic trends.
Third, many CAAs have to rely on data collected by their partners
and grantees (in the case of public agencies), many of whom may
have limited capacity to collect demographic data for new
individuals and
households. Fourth, there are many practical
problems to identifying who constitutes a new customer or
household which also constitutes an additional data collection
burden on staff.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and
Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
· Remove the
indicator for 180 days except in cases when reporting in
conjunction with the Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act
(WIOA) when this time frame is required. Local entities are not
provided funding to track those receiving services for that period
of time, leading to an inability to report the data. Remove it
from Employment, Income and Asset Building, Housing, and Health
and Social/Behavioral Development. Many of the data collection
systems used by agencies also simply lack the fields or variables
to track time-related data, making collection of this information
burdensome at best and impossible at worst.
·
Remove the Stability Indicators. The options available do not
provide data to answer the question on the data collection form on
page 67, “The following outcome indicators answer the
following commonly asked question: How many people (or families)
are 'better off/lives improved’ because of CAAs work?”
The first option is duplicative effort to collect the data, and
does not provide meaningful information. The second option uses a
survey that is not specific to families with low-incomes and is
too general to provide information needed or sought. The Consumer
Financial Protection Bureau’s Financial Well-Being Scale
relies on assumptions and definitions about what constitutes
“well-being” drawn from the general population. This
will result in the collection of data of limited utility for two
reasons. First, compared to what constitutes financial well-being
as defined by working and middle class Americans, the large
majority of agency customers will be at the lowest end of the
scale, meaning there will be little variance in the data to allow
for meaningful comparison. Second, what constitutes successful
outcomes for most agency customers would only result in slight
changes on the scale. For example, doubling savings from $50 to
$100 a month would be represent a substantial gain for many CAA
customers, but would not register on a scale that defines
financial well-being based on the assumptions and experiences of
the average American. In short, the scale is an inappropriate
measure and will not result in the collection of useful data.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Data
Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
· Remove this statement
from the data collection form. Note: Tracking outcomes for 180
days is the standard that agencies are expected to work toward.
The time frame of 90 days is included to allow agencies with
current limited capacity to report on this time frame and to
encourage quarterly review of data. The expectation is that
agencies will eventually report on the 180 day indicator. These
indicators would only be reported by those in a case management
program or similar intensive program where appropriate (i.e.
longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement leads the reader
to believe the future expectation will be much broader than
currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local agencies, and
the purpose and function of many of the programs operated by local
agencies. It should be edited to clearly state this is limited to
Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) activity.
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Comment 38 (Community Action
Partnership Of Orange County; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in CA)
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Module 4: Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
Tracking New individuals and households is difficult and
confusing. Coordination of reporting between programs enrollments
and delivery of services based on multiple contracts with
different contract periods further complicates completing this
section.
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Comment 39 (Community Action
Partnership Of Riverside County; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in
CA)
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Module 4: - Individual and
Family Level: (pages 51-75)
In general, the inclusion of
strategies and services in this Module will allow eligible
entities to better demonstrate how they are achieving the outcomes
reported.
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Comment 40 (Community Action
Partnership Of San Luis Obispo County, Inc.; Eligible Entity/Local
Agency in CA)
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Module 4: · Regarding
the revised Client Characteristics Report (pages 52-54), I like
the proposed changes, but there would be a financial impact for
the agency. I don't know specific costs for this, but I'm assuming
we would have to pay Client Track to make these changes. This
could prove to be costly.
· Pages 58--65,
Individual and Family NPIs, there are several categories
requesting outcomes on clients 180 days out (i.e. "Of the
above, the number of unemployed adults who maintain existing
employment for at least 180 days.). Many programs struggle to
obtain information on clients 90 days out, but 180 days would be
extremely challenging. Once a client exits a program, it's hard
for the program to remain in contact with them (based on feedback
from the programs) to keep in contact with the clients-- they
move, change their phone #s, etc.
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Comment 41 (Community Action Planning
Council Of Jefferson County, Inc.; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in
NY)
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Module 4: Individual and
Family Level: (pages 51-75)
• No Comments
Module
4, Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52)
• Remove this report in its entirety. It is
not necessary for the proper performance of the functions of the
agency, and when rolled up to the state, the information has no
practical utility. At a state level it will be misinterpreted and
can be influenced by what happens in larger population centers.
•
Two further points illustrate this issue. First, the
Characteristics report is of little use to determine if the agency
is responding to needs identified in its community assessment.
Demographic data alone does not identify the needs the new
customers may have and is therefore of limited utility in
comparison to data about individual, family, and community needs.
Second, since several core CAA programs (e.g. LIHEAP) have a large
number of new customers with limited or one time contact with the
agency, demographic data collected from the “low touch”
services would confuse meaningful analysis of demographic trends.
Third, many CAAs have to rely on data collected by their partners
and grantees (in the case of public agencies), many of whom may
have limited capacity to collect demographic data for new
individuals and households. Fourth, there are many practical
problems to identifying who constitutes a new customer or
household which also constitutes an additional data collection
burden on staff.
Module 4, Section B: All
Characteristics Report: (page # 53-54)
• No
Comments
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family
NPIs: (page # 55)
• No Comments
Module 4,
Section C: Individual and Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
• Remove the indicator for 180 days except in cases
when reporting in conjunction with the Workforce Investment and
Opportunity Act (WIOA) when this time frame is required. Local
entities are not provided funding to track those receiving
services for that period of time, leading to an inability to
report the data. Remove it from Employment, Income and Asset
Building, Housing, and Health and Social/Behavioral Development.
Many of the data collection systems used by agencies also simply
lack the fields or variables to track time-related data, making
collection of this information burdensome at best and impossible
at worst.
• Remove the Stability Indicators. The
options available do not provide data to answer the question on
the data collection form on page 67, “The following outcome
indicators answer the following commonly asked question: How many
people (or families) are 'better off/lives improved’ because
of CAAs work?” The first option is duplicative effort to
collect the data, and does not provide meaningful information. The
second option uses a survey that is not specific to families with
low-incomes and is too general to provide information needed or
sought. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau’s Financial
Well-Being Scale relies on assumptions and definitions about what
constitutes “well-being” drawn from the general
population. This will result in the collection of data of limited
utility for two reasons. First, compared to what constitutes
financial well-being as defined by working and middle class
Americans, the large majority of agency customers will be at the
lowest end of the scale, meaning there will be little variance in
the data to allow for meaningful comparison. Second, what
constitutes successful outcomes for most agency customers would
only result in slight changes on the scale. For example, doubling
savings from $50 to $100 a month would be represent a substantial
gain for many CAA customers, but would not register on a scale
that defines financial well-being based on the assumptions and
experiences of the average American. In short, the scale is an
inappropriate measure and will not result in the collection of
useful data.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family
NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
• Remove this
statement from the data collection form: Note: Tracking outcomes
for 180 days is the standard that agencies are expected to work
toward. The time frame of 90 days is included to allow agencies
with current limited capacity to report on this time frame and to
encourage quarterly review of data. The expectation is that
agencies will eventually report on the 180 day indicator. These
indicators would only be reported by those in a case management
program or similar intensive program where appropriate (i.e.
longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement leads the reader
to believe the future expectation will be much broader than
currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local agencies, and
the purpose and function of many of the programs operated by local
agencies. It should be edited to clearly state this is limited to
Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) activity.
Module
4, Section D: Individual and Family Services: (page # 68-75)•
No Comments
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Comment 42 (Community Action Program
Associations For Community Action Agencies; State Association in
WI)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 43 (Community Renewal Team ;
Eligible Entity/Local Agency in CT)
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Module 4: Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
a. Remove this report in its entirety. It is not necessary
for the proper performance of the functions of the agency.
b.
Data Entry Form is an unnecessary document that will not produce
quality data; it has little utility at an agency/local level; and
it lends itself to meaningless data at a state and national level.
It should be removed. The large number of “one time”
customers in programs such as LIHEAP will skew any meaningful
interpretation of the data. Aside from the challenge of defining
who constitutes a new customer, our agency uses multiple reporting
systems and it will have the added burden of tracking new
customers across all programs and services.
c. Several
core Agency programs (e.g. LIHEAP) have a large number of new
customers with limited or one time contact with the agency,
demographic data collected from the “low touch”
services would confuse meaningful analysis of demographic trends.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Landing
Page: (page # 55-57)
a. Remove the indicator for 180 days
except in cases when reporting in conjunction with the Workforce
Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) when this time frame is
required. Our Agency is not provided funding to track those
receiving services for that period of time, leading to an
inability to report the data. Remove it from Employment, Income
and Asset Building, Housing, and Health and Social/Behavioral
Development. Data collection systems also lack the fields or
variables to track time-related data, making collection of this
information burdensome at best and impossible at worst.
b.
Remove the Stability Indicators. The options available do not
provide data to answer the question on the data collection form on
page 67, “The following outcome indicators answer the
following commonly asked question: How many people (or families)
are 'better off/lives improved’ because of CAAs work?”
The first option is duplicative effort to collect the data, and
does not provide meaningful information. Data would be difficult
to obtain and report due to multiple funder mandated software
systems in place – which could lead to under-reporting or
double counting. The second option uses a survey that is not
specific to families with low-incomes and is too general to
provide information needed or sought. The Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau’s Financial Well-Being Scale relies on
assumptions and definitions about what constitutes “well-being”
drawn from the general population. The indicators selected and
included in the clearance package are not helpful or practical
when reporting customers stabilized as a result of an agency’s
work. The first option duplicates data already being collected.
The second option which uses a tool (CFPB Financial Well Being
Scale) to define financial stability, using assumptions drawn from
the general population, but not specifically from low income
individuals and families. Financial well-being has different
meaning for the low-income population in comparison to the general
population. For example, doubling savings from $50 to $100 a month
would be represent a substantial gain for many CAA customers, but
would not register on a scale that defines financial well-being
based on the assumptions and experiences of the average American.
In short, the scale is an inappropriate measure and will not
result in the collection of useful data.
Module 4,
Section C: Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page #
56-67)
a. Remove this statement from the data collection
form: Note: Tracking outcomes for 180 days is the standard that
agencies are expected to work toward. The time frame of 90 days is
included to allow agencies with current limited capacity to report
on this time frame and to encourage quarterly review of data. The
expectation is that agencies will eventually report on the 180 day
indicator. These indicators would only be reported by those in a
case management program or similar intensive program where
appropriate (i.e. longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement
leads the reader to believe the future expectation will be much
broader than currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local
agencies, and the purpose and function of many of the programs
operated by local agencies. It should be edited to clearly state
this is limited to Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA)
activity.
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Comment 45 (Del Norte Senior Center,
Inc.; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in CA)
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Module 4: Module 4 -
Individual and Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4,
Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52)
Asking for the incredibly detailed statistics
being required on any of our individuals and households is
challenging, intrusive and likely to result in barriers to service
access. Asking us to then separate those into individuals who are
new to services, and those who are “existing” is
unreasonable.
Module 4, Section B: All Characteristics
Report: (page # 53-54)
Same as above.
Module 4,
Section C: Individual and Family NPIs: (page # 55)
Module
4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Landing Page: (page #
55-57)
· Health and Social/Behavioral Development,
indicator 6 defines seniors as 65 or older. The Older Americans
Act, which supports senior nutrition services, defines a senior as
anyone age 60 or older. The HUD program that subsidizes housing
complexes for
low-income seniors defines a senior as anyone
62 or older. The current CSBG age breakdown defines seniors as 55
and older. The inconsistent definition of “senior” for
federal programs increases the reporting burden, as clients have
to be separated by different age categories for different funding
source reporting, even though they are participating in the same
blended-funding-supported program.
· A number of
indicators require maintenance of a condition for 60 to 180-day
follow up periods. This is not always possible and should not be
required. Who is to decide which interval is “successful”?
·
ALL indicators ask for a percentage of individuals who achieve the
goal. Percentages are not always logical.
· The
first Stability NPI is nearly impossible to track and not at all
useful to the efficient operation of services. The requirement to
try to track clients who may be participating in multiple programs
across different indicators in an unduplicated manner is not
feasible without significant data re-entry or filtering. The
disparate
funding sources for CSBG agencies all require their
own proprietary database and reporting structures. None of the
program databases work with each other and trying to aggregate an
unduplicated count is practically impossible.
·
Where is the indicator that measures participation in Community
Action activities without requiring that participants “work
with Community Action to improve conditions in the community?”
In the case of CAA’s who run community or senior centers,
participation in the activities offered at the center is the end
outcome. Participants should not be required to become activists
in order to be considered to be participating in civic engagement.
In other words, outcome 1.b should be a standalone outcome and the
indicator measuring engagement in community enrichment
activities
should be restored.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and
Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
Why are “Served”
and “Targeted” two different columns? Wouldn’t
you target everyone you served to achieve the goal?
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Comment 46 (Delaware Opportunities
Inc.; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in DE)
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Module 4: Module 4 -
Individual and Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4,
Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52)
Remove this report in its entirety. It is not
necessary for the proper performance of the functions of the
agency, and when rolled up to the state, the information has no
practical utility. The definition of "new" presents
problems. Our agency does not have the capacity to generate this
report at present, even after the issues of definition are
addressed. Attempts to gather this data will be expensive and the
results will be essentially meaningless.
Module 4,
Section C: Individual and Family NPIs: (page # 55)
Remove
(and percent) wherever it appears. The base information from which
the percentage is derived is frequently unknown. Aggregating
percentages at the state or national level cannot be provide an
accurate or meaningful number.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
Remove
the indicator for 180 days except in cases when reporting in
conjunction with the Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act
(WIOA) when this time frame is required. Our agency is not
provided with funding to track those receiving services for that
period of time, leading to an inability to report the data. Remove
it from Employment, Income and Asset Building, Housing, and Health
and Social/Behavioral Development. Collecting this information
will be burdensome at best.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
Page
65. The number of seniors should be 60+ consistent with the Older
Americans Act. Remove the Stability Indicators. The options
available do not provide data to answer the question on the data
collection form on page 67, "The following outcome indicators
answer the following commonly asked question: How many people (or
families) are 'better off/lives improved' because of CAAs work?"
The first option is duplicative effort to collect the data, and
does not provide meaningful information. The second option uses a
survey that is not specific to families with low-incomes and is
too general to provide information needed or sought.
Module
4, Section D: Individual and Family Services: (page # 68-75)
There are gaps in services provided. Sexual assault appears
to be an issue which is not reported, nor is WIC. We found no
place to report on services to those with disabilities. Car seat
safety and youth in foster care. Big Brothers Big Sisters.
Nutrition in general. SNAP outreach. Parent Aide. These were
accommodated by the previous NPls. They should not have been
discarded. Thank you for the opportunity to comment. We made many
of these same comments in response to the initial comment period;
however our recommendations regarding these items have yet to be
addressed. We trust that our comments will be seriously reviewed.
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Comment 47 (Department Of Community
Service And Development ; State in CA)
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Module 4: Module 4 proves to
be the module with the greatest degree of change and poses the
greatest challenges to states and the network of CBSG agencies.
Module 4 is plagued by some of the reporting features contained
within the Characteristics Report and Individual and Family
National Performance Indicators.
The Characteristics Report
has two iterations: one for new individuals and households and one
for all individual households. Through discussions and analysis it
is not clear how creation of a baseline adds a notable value to
the delivery of services to the individuals and families who
receive CSBG services. It has been described that this report is
not designed to be a pre- and post- assessment of individual and
household composition. However, it appears that there will be
duplication of some program participants who are receiving
services if the program is short term. For instance, an individual
who participates in a program for six months would be reported on
both the "New" and "All" report forms. This
person would likely not have changed many
individual
characteristics (i.e.: age, gender, ethnicity, or
military status) or household characteristics (i.e.: household
type or size) within a six month timeframe. The example is used to
be a mere illustration of how this level of documentation could be
more burdensome in terms of agency reporting than useful for CSBG.
In addition, the "All Characteristics" reports are
segregated by individual and household. This seems to be an
excessive amount of data collection. This would mean that agency
staff would need to collect, reassess and report on an individual
and household composition a total of three times. It is difficult
to determine how this information would be used and if there is a
smaller degree of information that could be collected in order to
tell the same story about the individuals and households we serve.
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Comment 48 (Department Of Housing And
Community Development ; State in MA)
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Module 4: With the exception
of Module 4 – Section A “Characteristics for NEW
Individuals and Households” (discussed further below), the
collection of information proposed in the CSBG Annual Report is
necessary and shall have practical utility for our State when
supporting the work of our Community Action Agencies
(CAAs).
While the intent of Module 4 – Section A
is understood, the data resulting will be unreliable across all
agencies and will lose its utility when aggregated to the State
and National level. Since there is such broad variance in agency
client tracking and data collection systems across the CAA
network, this report will only be as reliable as the data systems
of the CAA completing it. Additionally, even if agencies had equal
ability to track and collect client data, the report loses its
utility once rolled up to the State and National Level since it
seems to assume an individual/family did not receive social
services elsewhere in the state or country before applying to a
specific CAA. In reality, we know many individuals/families in
need reach out for services from multiple agencies in the same or
different jurisdictions. Our ability to track the demographics of
those who reach out for help before an intervention is provided is
limited by our ability to share data across agencies and
jurisdictions.
Remove Module 4 – Section A
“Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households”
from the requirements of the report since, as discussed above, the
information collected will not yield quality information or have
practical utility.
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Comment 49 (Department Of Human
Services ; State in AR)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 50 (Department Of Social
Services Office Of Community Services ; State in CT)
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Module 4: Module 4 -
Individual and Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4,
Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52)
o “NEW” meaning
individuals/households that have never entered the agency for
services or individuals/households that have not entered the
agency within a specified time period (e.g. 2 years)?
O 11. Sources of
Household Income – CAAs may be challenged with coming up
with an unduplicated count of households as systems collect income
information on all household members; households typically have
multiple sources of income. Example: For a household with two
adults and no children, Adult A may earn income from a. Employment
Only and Adult B’s income is categorized as g. No Income.
One data point would be assigned to a. and one to g. Therefore the
household would be counted twice (heading column states “Number
of Households”). It may be more accurate to delete the
heading “Number of Households” and indicate that
Sources of Household Income in a duplicative number.
Module
4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Landing Page: (page #
55-57)
o A number of these standards are unnecessarily
vague. Specific questions include:
o What is meant by
“basic needs”? What one household/agency/state may
consider to be a basic need is different from another
interpretation.
O What is the timeline for avoiding
eviction/foreclosure? One might avoid the outcome for a 90 day
period only to ultimately be in that situation further into the
year.
O What is the measure that should be used for
“improved physical health”? One might not lose weight,
for example, but increase strength and/or endurance capacity,
however neither of these things will likely be a result of the
CAA.
O There is no specific measure for “increased
sensitivity and responsiveness” for parents toward children.
According to which parenting model? Parenting is always an
individual and unique choice and this measure seems both vague and
potentially insulting toward clients etc.
Module 4,
Section C: Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page #
56-67)
Module 4, Section D: Individual and Family
Services: (page # 68-75)
Other items:
Reporting Burden
– According to the IM, “OCS is keenly aware of the
burden data collection, analysis and reporting may have on the
CSBG Network. We also believe that these tasks are investments
that can help agencies improve, grow and produce breakthrough
results. To estimate the reporting burden (the collection and
review of performance data as well as the development of any
necessary technology) on the CSBG Network to produce the proposed
Annual Report, OCS factored in several variables:
1.
Whether the data being requested is new or is “usual and
customary” for each section of the proposed Annual Report
(e.g. local agencies are already legally required to collect much
of the demographic data to determine eligibility of participants,
while the services and strategies are new); 2. How the data
collection effort differs at the state versus the local level
(e.g. the states are responsible for reporting on the
Administrative Module including performance against the State
Accountability Measures as set in each State’s Annual Plan,
and for reviewing and analyzing the data collected from the local
agencies. The local eligible entities have the burden of tracking
participants served and the outcomes they achieve); 3. The current
capacity to collect, report and review the requested data, and how
that varies throughout the network (e.g. some organizations
currently have sophisticated technology and trained staff; others
will need to upgrade their technology, and some number will need
to develop new systems and train staff); and 4. Over time the
burden will decrease as systems are developed or modified and as
staff gain experience with reporting and analysis.”
Unfortunately, reporting burden does not take into
consideration the activities associated with implementation and
integration to ensure compliant reporting. The time effort assumes
that systems are in place. The reporting burden/time effort should
be revisited to more realistically reflect the time associated
with implementation, testing and alignment of Theory of Change and
the Annual Report. For example, when CT worked with the LIHEAP
staff to align the Assurance 16 Report with ROMA reporting, the
initial investment was approximately 50 hours and that number does
not include the time investment that will be required to work with
our source systems to ensure uniform reporting. Finally it appears
that there are no funds identified to assist with the
dissemination of the local data entry model and integration of
programs for local CAAs. Difficult decisions will have to be made;
however, the proposed system and timeline does not allow for CAAs
to conduct mindful planning and integration activities. CT rolled
out this effort in 2004 when it implemented its Human Services
Infrastructure (HSI) model, the local response to ROMA. Now with
the proposed changes, the systems will change and resources must
be identified to ensure compliance.
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Comment 51 (Dickinson Community
Action Partnership ; Other/Unknown in ND)
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Module 4: Tracking clients who
seek emergency services over the course of up-to 180 days is
invasive and does little to protect the rights of the clients and
their reasonable expectation of privacy. Our concerns are outlined
below.
Module 4: Remove the Characteristics for NEW
Individuals and Households Report. This report has no practical
utility at the local level given the time and expense to create it
at each local agency. This is not necessary for agency
performance, and the intentions outlined by OCS for its use are
not reflective of how local agencies and states look at their
communities to assess needs, develop programs, and report
progress. It also lacks utility at the state level given that data
such as this rolled up to the state level will be skewed by large
population centers and decrease the practical utility of the data
even further. In addition, many agencies may either lack
management information systems with the capacity to disaggregate
this type of data from its overall customer database, or struggle
to integrate the required data given their use of multiple (and
sometimes incompatible) reporting systems. In addition, as many
local agencies serve families over time, with no definition of
"new/' being provided for review, the CSBG Network will be
unable to implement this report consistently. Defining an
individual or family as new becomes challenging when they may
receive different services over many years (e.g. Early Head Start,
child care, after school programs, youth programs, job training,
WIC, food boxes, LIHEAP, etc.).
Module 4: Remove the
Stability Indicators. The indicators selected and included in the
clearance package are not helpful or practical when reporting
customers stabilized as a result of the eligible entities work.
One option duplicates data already collected and the second uses a
tool that defines financial stability based on a construct the
uses assumptions drawn from the general population, not low-income
individuals and families specifically. Because financial well-
being means something very different for the low-income population
in comparison to the general population, use of the scale will
produce data of limited utility.
Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households - Data Entry
Form is an unnecessary document that will not produce quality
data; it will have little utility at a local level; and it lends
itself to meaningless data at a state and national level. It
should be removed. Because demographic data alone does not include
information about the needs of new customers, this information
fails to help agencies determine if they are addressing issues
identified in their community assessments. Furthermore, the large
number of "one time" customers in programs such as
LIHEAP will skew any meaningful interpretation of the data. Aside
from the challenge of defining who constitutes a new customer,
agencies that use multiple reporting systems will also have the
added burden of tracking new customers across all programs and
services.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family
NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
Remove the indicator for 180
days except in cases when reporting in conjunction with the
Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) when this time
frame is required. Local entities are not provided funding to
track those receiving services for that period of time, leading to
an inability to report the data. Remove it from Employment, Income
and Asset Building, Housing, and Health and Social/Behavioral
Development. Many of the data collection systems used by agencies
also simply lack the fields or variables to track time-related
data, making collection of this information burdensome at best and
impossible at worst.
Remove the Stability Indicators.
The options available do not provide data to answer the question
on the data collection form on page 67, "The following
outcome indicators answer the following commonly asked question:
How many people (or families) are 'better off/lives improved'
because of CAAs work?" The first option is duplicative effort
to collect the data, and does not provide meaningful information.
The second option uses a survey that is not specific to families
with low-incomes and is too general to provide information needed
or sought. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's Financial
Well-Being Scale relies on assumptions and definitions about what
constitutes "well-being' drawn from the general population.
This will result in the collection of data of limited utility for
two reasons. First, compared to what constitutes financial
well-being as defined by working and middle class Americans, the
large majority of agency customers will be at the lowest end of
the scale, meaning there will be little variance in the data to
allow for meaningful comparison. Second, what constitutes
successful outcomes for most agency customers would only result in
slight changes on the scale. For example, doubling savings from
$50 to $100 a month would be represent a substantial gain for many
CAA customers, but would not register on a scale that defines
financial well-being based on the assumptions and experiences of
the average American. In short, the scale is an inappropriate
measure and will not result in the collection of useful
data.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI
Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
• Remove this
statement from the data collection form: Note: Tracking outcomes
for 180 days is the standard that agencies are expected to work
toward. The time frame of 90 days is included to allow agencies
with current limited capacity to report on this time frame and to
encourage quarterly review of data. The expectation is that
agencies will eventually report on the 180 day indicator. These
indicators would only be reported by those in a case management
program or similar intensive program where appropriate (i.e.
longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement leads the reader
to believe the future expectation will be much broader than
currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local agencies, and
the purpose and function of many of the programs operated by local
agencies. It should be edited to clearly state this is limited to
Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) activity.
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Comment 52 (Dickinson Iron Community
Service Agency ; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in MI)
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Module 4: We are concerned
with how our current management information systems (that already
don’t ‘talk’ to each other) will be able to
gather the data needed to fit this report. For example, the
characteristic of ‘new individuals/households’ is
difficult to track across our multiple systems and it will be
unclear as to who should be considered new. Are they new if they
receive a different service within DICSA or only if they’ve
never been through our doors before? It is not data we would look
to when assessing community needs or program development.
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Comment 53 (Division Of Sate Service
; State in DE)
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Module 4: Module 4 Individual
and Family Level
o Request to change the case load
requirements from 35 to 30 with 180 days retention – this
will provide more flexibility for case managers to support
individuals who require additional support such as those
transitioning from incarceration back into the community
o
The agencies work with a population of individuals who are never
going to achieve the goals set forth in the current NPI, but
through case management we can assist them in having a better
quality of life then they would have if left to fend for
themselves. Where do we report on these individuals? Does CSBG
recognize lateral moves as successful?
O Not sure what
the CSBG mandate is for reporting but performance needs to follow
funding period. Perhaps this is a Delaware issues but it is one
that needs to be re-evaluated.
O Can continuing clients
from one year to the next be counted as clients in which no
characteristics is collected and only take characteristics on new
client throughout the reporting period. The problem this causes is
the perception of servicing clients that are over income, I did
see the information on new Characteristics was not sure it
addressed this concern.
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Comment 54 (East Missouri Action
Agency, Inc.; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in MO)
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Module 4: - Individual and
Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
I
believe that the Characteristics for NEW Individuals and
Households Report should not be used. It is meaningless data, and
has no practical utility for our agency. I do not know how using
this basic demographic data will help our agency to determine that
we are meeting our customer’s needs. It does not show the
impact of our programs in any way. Also, defining an individual,
or family as “new” is extremely difficult. Many of the
families we work with are on a continuing basis from year to year,
and may receive many different services, such as LIHEAP, Head
Start, Housing, etc. So, for those families and individuals we
serve over time, how would we define “new”? This
information is not needed in any way at our agency, and will just
be another financial burden considering the time and expense it
will take to compile.
Module 4, Section C: Individual
and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
In Missouri,
we already use the MO Family Self-Sufficiency Scales (FSS Scales)
to assess our customers increase in stability. I believe that the
FSS Scales can be revised to include more information in order to
meet the reporting requirements for Stability #2. This would be a
much more cost effective solution for our state network, rather
than using an additional scale.
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Comment 55 (Florida Department Of
Economic Opportunity ; Other/Unknown in FL)
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Module 4: * One of the biggest
concerns is the department’s capacity to obtain the required
data. Currently, we are required to report on 300+ data points.
The proposal would require reporting of 1,000+ data points. Our
current systems and staff are limited. Many of the proposed data
points are not currently being collected by our case management
system. Technology that will track all of the required information
can be costly.
* Future CSBG funds are not likely to
be sufficient enough to help sustain such a complicated system and
additional staff. OCS has proposed an on-line automated system for
use by states and possibly local agencies.
* Our
agency will have to continue with our current case management
systems and then manage the data input to the proposed online
system. This will cost us staff hours to train and manage.
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Comment 56 (Four Square Community
Action ; Other/Unknown in NC)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 57 (Fresno Economic
Opportunities Commission ; Other/Unknown in CA)
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Module 4: c. Another new form
– Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households Data
Entry Form – would be extraordinarily burdensome, time
consuming, and costly to produce, for most agencies, particularly
agencies the size and breadth of Fresno EOC. We have 14 major
programs through which we serve 250,000 individuals each year.
But, the many components within these 14 programs total more than
60. It is unclear why such new data should be collected and what
value it would add to our ROMA report. Furthermore, collecting
such data from among our programs when they are already collecting
substantial data for their funders (more than 100 contracts in
place now) will without question further burden our directors by
adding a significant responsibility on top of reports similar in
nature but unique enough and utilizing unique reporting standards
and systems such that they would require additional staff and
significant expense to respond to ROMA NG.
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Comment 58 (Greater Bergen Community
Action; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in NJ)
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Module 4: - Individual and
Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
While information on new clients could be beneficial to
individual agencies, I don’t know what the information, when
aggregated, will tell the states. I think its usefulness is on a
local level only, and should not be a part of an annual
report.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family
NPIs: (page # 55)
180 day follow-up is important, but
without additional resources almost impossible.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
Overall, these NPIs do a good job of laying out the work of
our community action agency. Changing the wording on the last
column for % Planning and the definition makes the reason for the
column clearer than in the past, however, this is only useful
internally. Why collect this information at a state or national
level? A funder only cares if we don’t deliver what we said
we would, not how well we forecast our outcomes. Stability
measures don’t give the whole picture. The first measure is
better, but still leaves a lot to be desired. For example, someone
working toward their HSE can’t be counted unless they have
achieved their outcome, yet most would say that they are better
off right now. The second measure requires us to have clients
complete the CFPB scale. In our agency only a small percentage of
the clients assisted would be available after receiving services
to complete the scale, so it’s usefulness as a national
measure is limited.
Module 4, Section D: Individual and
Family Services: (page # 68-75) Separating the services from the
outcomes improves both sections of the report, but it also seems
to be a step back into counting services instead of outcomes.
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Comment 59 (Greater Bergen Community
Action ; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in NJ)
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Section A: Characteristics for
NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52) While information on
new clients could be beneficial to individual agencies, I don’t
know what the information, when aggregated, will tell the states.
I think its usefulness is on a local level only, and should not be
a part of an annual report.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPIs: (page # 55)
180 day follow-up is
important, but without additional resources almost impossible.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
Overall, these NPIs do a good job of laying out the work of our
community action agency. Changing the wording on the last column
for % Planning and the definition makes the reason for the column
clearer than in the past, however, this is only useful internally.
Why collect this information at a state or national level? A
funder only cares if we don’t deliver what we said we would,
not how well we forecast our outcomes.
Stability measures
don’t give the whole picture. The first measure is better,
but still leaves a lot to be desired. For example, someone working
toward their HSE can’t be counted unless they have achieved
their outcome, yet most would say that they are better off right
now. The second measure requires us to have clients complete the
CFPB scale. In our agency only a small percentage of the clients
assisted would be available after receiving services to complete
the scale, so it’s usefulness as a national measure is
limited.
Module 4, Section D: Individual and Family
Services: (page # 68-75) Separating the services from the outcomes
improves both sections of the report, but it also seems to be a
step back into counting services instead of outcomes.
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Comment 60 (Hinds County Human
Resources Agency ; Other/Unknown in MS)
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Module 4: Module 4 –
Individual and Family Level: (pages 51-75)
No Comments
Module 4, Section A: Characteristics for NEW
Individuals and Households: (page # 52) No Comments
Module
4, Section B: All Characteristics Report: (page # 53-54)
No
Comments
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family
NPIs: (page # 55)
No Comments
Module 4, Section
C: Individual and Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
Remove
the indicator for 180 days except in cases when reporting in
conjunction with the Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act
(WIOA) when this time frame is required. Local entities are not
provided funding to track those receiving services for that period
of time, leading to an inability to report the data. Remove it
from Employment, Income and Asset Building, Housing, and Health
and Social/Behavioral Development. Many of the data collection
systems used by agencies also simply lack the fields or variables
to track time-related data, making collection of this information
burdensome at best and impossible at worst.
Remove the
Stability Indicators. The options available do not provide data to
answer the question on the data collection form on page 67, “The
following outcome indicators answer the following commonly asked
question: How many people (or families) are 'better off/lives
improved’ because of CAAs work?” The first option is
duplicative effort to collect the data, and does not provide
meaningful information. The second option uses a survey that is
not specific to families with low-incomes and is too general to
provide information needed or sought. The Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau’s Financial Well-Being Scale relies on
assumptions and definitions about what constitutes “well-being”
drawn from the general population. This will result in the
collection of data of limited utility for two reasons. First,
compared to what constitutes financial well-being as defined by
working and middle class Americans, the large majority of agency
customers will be at the lowest end of the scale, meaning there
will be little variance in the data to allow for meaningful
comparison. Second, what constitutes successful outcomes for most
agency customers would only result in slight changes on the scale.
For example, doubling savings from $50 to $100 a month would be
represent a substantial gain for many CAA customers, but would not
register on a scale that defines financial well-being based on the
assumptions and experiences of the average American. In short, the
scale is an inappropriate measure and will not result in the
collection of useful data.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67) Remove
this statement from the data collection form: Note: Tracking
outcomes for 180 days is the standard that agencies are expected
to work toward. The time frame of 90 days is included to allow
agencies with current limited capacity to report on this time
frame and to encourage quarterly review of data. The expectation
is that agencies will eventually report on the 180 day indicator.
These indicators would only be reported by those in a case
management program or similar intensive program where appropriate
(i.e. longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement leads the
reader to believe the future expectation will be much broader than
currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local agencies, and
the purpose and function of many of the programs operated by local
agencies. It should be edited to clearly state this is limited to
Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) activity.
Module
4, Section D: Individual and Family Services: (page # 68-75)
No
Comments
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Comment 61 (Illinois Association
Community Action Agency ; Other/Unknown in IL)
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Module 4: Module 4 -
Individual and Family Level:
Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
Remove this report in its entirety. It is not necessary for
the proper performance of the functions of the agency, and when
rolled up to the state, the information has no practical utility.
At a state level it will be misinterpreted and can be influenced
by what happens in larger population centers. These further points
illustrate this issue. First, the Characteristics report is of
little use to determine if the agency is responding to needs
identified in its community assessment. Demographic data alone
does not identify the needs
the new customers may have and is
therefore of limited utility in comparison to data about
individual, family, and community needs. Second, since several
core CAA programs (e.g. LIHEAP) have a large number of new
customers with limited or one time contact with the agency,
demographic data collected from the "low touch" services
would confuse meaningful analysis of demographic trends. Third,
many CAAs have to rely on data collected by their partners and
grantees (in the case of public agencies), many of whom may have
limited capacity to collect demographic data for new individuals
and households. Fourth, there are many practical problems to
identifying who constitutes a new customer or household which also
constitutes an additional data collection burden on staff while
simultaneously further eroding any public policy value from
aggregated data.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and
Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
Remove the indicator
for 180 days except in cases when reporting in conjunction with
the Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) requirements.
Local entities are not provided funding to track those receiving
services for that period of time, leading to an inability to
report the data. Remove it from Employment, Income and Asset
Building, Housing, and Health and Social/Behavioral Development.
Many of the data collection systems used by agencies also simply
lack the fields or variables to track time-related data, making
collection of this information burdensome at best and impossible
at worst.
Remove the Stability Indicators. The options
available do not provide data to answer the question on the data
collection form on page 67, "The following outcome indicators
answer the following commonly asked question: How many people (or
families) are 'better off/lives improved' because of CAAs work?"
The first option is duplicative effort to collect the data, and
does not provide meaningful information. The second option uses a
survey that is not specific to families with low-incomes and is
too general to provide information needed or sought. The Consumer
Financial Protection Bureau's Financial Well-Being Scale relies on
assumptions and definitions about what constitutes "well-being"
drawn from the general population. This will result in the
collection of data of limited utility for two reasons. First,
compared to what constitutes financial well-being as defined by
working and middle class Americans, the large majority of agency
customers will be at the lowest end of the scale, meaning there
will be little variance in the data to allow for meaningful
comparison. Second, what constitutes successful outcomes for most
agency customers would only result in slight changes on the scale.
For example, doubling savings from $50 to $100 a month would be
represent a substantial gain for many CAA customers, but would not
register on a scale that defines financial well-being
based
on the assumptions and experiences of the average American. In
short, the scale is an inappropriate measure and will not result
in the collection of useful data.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67) Remove
this statement from the data collection form: Note: Tracking
outcomes for 180 days is the standard that agencies are expected
to work toward. The time frame of 90 days is included to allow
agencies with current limited
capacity to report on this
timeframe and to encourage quarterly review of data. The
expectation is that agencies will eventually report on the 180 day
indicator. These indicators would only be reported by those in a
case management program or similar intensive program where
appropriate (i.e. longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement
leads the reader to believe the future expectation will be much
broader than currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local
agencies, and the purpose and function of many of the programs
operated by local agencies. It should be edited to clearly state
this is limited to Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA)
activity. Thank you for the opportunity to submit these comments
for your review and consideration. We look forward to our
continued involvement in these deliberations as we strive to
develop a framework that will truly work for our network. I can be
reached directly at dsulamoyo@iacaanet.org or 217-652-0878.
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Comment 62 (Inca Community Service;
Eligible Entity/Local Agency in OK)
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Module 4: Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
·
Remove the report in its entirety. It is not necessary and does
not give any useful information to the local agency or state.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Landing
Page: (page # 55-57)
· Remove the follow-up
indicators. Agencies are not provided funding to track those
receiving services. The collection of this information is
burdensome, usually inaccurate and too expensive for the
information obtained.
· Remove the Stability
Indicators. Unable to narrow the definition and the meaning
causing the information collected to be inappropriate and not
useful data.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family
NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
· Remove the
statements and requirement for tracking outcomes.
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Comment 63 (Indiana Housing And
Community Development Authority ; State in ID)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 64 (Iowa Community Action
Association; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in IA)
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Module 4: Module 4, REMOVE
Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page #52) Our network has not been convinced how this information
is useful to the agency or network as a whole, in relation to
measuring performance.
Module 4, Section C: Individual
and Family NPIs: (page # 55-66)
Remove the indicator for 90
days and 180 days throughout UNLESS there is funding provided to
setup the systems needed to collect/track this information and pay
for staff time to implement the process. Local entities are not
provided funding to track those receiving services for that period
of time, leading to an inability to report the data. Remove this
statement from all forms: Note: Tracking outcomes for 180 days is
the standard that agencies are expected to work toward. The time
frame of 90 days is included to allow agencies with current
limited capacity to report on this time frame and to encourage
quarterly review of data. The expectation is that agencies will
eventually report on the 180 day indicator. These indicators would
only be reported by those in a case management program or similar
intensive program where appropriate (i.e. longitudinal tracking).
This sweeping statement exceeds the capacity of local agencies and
the purpose and function of many of the programs operated by local
agencies. Additional resources would be needed to successfully
implement follow-up with families with a limited income as well as
to secure a system to track the data being collected; which many
programs offered by Community Action Agencies do not provide.
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Comment 65 (Kceoc Community Action
Partnership; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in KY)
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Module 4: General comment for
this section: Why do a baseline? Is the information going
anywhere? Also, I continue to be concerned about tracking
requirements. Please allow us to make that decision based on the
needs of the client and mutually agreed upon tasks/goals/etc. in
their case plans. In our experience, our local middle class
families are primarily stable. None of us of really
self-sufficient; to us, self-sufficiency is depending on no
outside resources. Our staff cannot even make that claim as, for
instance, our employer is paying part of our health insurance
costs.
If we can get our families stabilized, we have made a
great accomplishment. Why do we only consider success by the
amount of money someone makes? About 18 years ago, we helped our
first household become a homeowner. She was a single, disabled SSI
recipient back when SSI was about $545 per month. The lady is
still in the home, still making her payments. Was this a success?
She’s in poverty, but she is a long standing homeowner in
the community. She has an asset that only 63% of the county
population has, and does it on an income that is only about 33% of
the median income of $25,523.
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Comment 66 (Lakes And Prairies
Community Action Partnership ; Other/Unknown in MN)
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Module 4: Module 4 -
Individual and Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4,
Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52)
Remove this report in its entirety. It is not
necessary for the proper performance of the functions of the
agency, and when rolled up to the state, the information has no
practical utility. At a state level it will be misinterpreted and
can be influenced by what happens in larger population centers.
Demographic data alone does not identify the needs the new
customers may have and is therefore of limited utility in
comparison to data about individual, family, and community needs.
There are also many practical problems to identifying who
constitutes a "new" customer or household which also
constitutes an additional data collection burden on staff.
Module
4, Section C: Individual and Family NPIs: (page # 55-57)
Remove
the indicator for 180 days. Local entities are not provided
funding to track those receiving services for that period of time,
leading to an inability to report the data. Remove it from
Employment, Income and Asset Building, Housing, and Health and
Social/Behavioral Development. Many of the data collection systems
used by agencies also simply lack the fields or variables to track
time-related data, making collection of this information
burdensome at best and impossible at worst.
Remove the
Stability Indicators. The options available do not provide data to
answer the question on the data collection form on page 67, "The
following outcome indicators answer the following commonly asked
question: How many people (or families) are 'better off/lives
improved' because of CAAs work?" The first option is
duplicative effort to collect the data, and does not provide
meaningful information. The second option uses a survey that is
not specific to families with low-incomes and is too general to
provide information needed or sought. The Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau's Financial Well-Being Scale relies on
assumptions and definitions about what constitutes "well-being"
drawn from the general population. This will result in the
collection of data of limited utility for two reasons. First,
compared to what constitutes financial well-being as defined by
working and middle class Americans, the large majority of agency
customers will be at the lowest end of the scale, meaning there
will be little variance in the data to allow for meaningful
comparison. Second, what constitutes successful outcomes for most
agency customers would only result in slight changes on the scale.
For example, doubling savings from $50 to $100 a month would be
represent a substantial gain for many CAA customers, but would not
register on a scale that defines financial well-being based on the
assumptions and experiences of the average American. In short, the
scale is an inappropriate measure and will not result in the
collection of useful data.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
Remove
this statement from the data collection form: Note: Tracking
outcomes for 180 days is the standard that agencies are expected
to work toward. The timeframe of 90 days is included to allow
agencies with current limited capacity to report on this
time
frame and to encourage quarterly review of data. The
expectation is that agencies will eventually report on the 180 day
indicator. These indicators would only be reported by those in a
case management program or similar intensive program where
appropriate (i. e. longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement
leads the reader to believe the future expectation will be much
broader than currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local
agencies, and the purpose and function of many of the programs
operated by local agencies.
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Comment 67 (Lorain County Community
Action Agency ; Other/Unknown in OH)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 68 (Louisville Metro
Community Service ; State in KY)
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Module 4: Module 4 -
Individual and Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4,
Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52)
· Section A of Module 4 is unnecessary
and adds no value for local agencies. In fact, the report becomes
even less valuable as the data is aggregated, as there is no way
to assure an unduplicated count of people served.
Module
4, Section B: All Characteristics Report: (page # 53-54)
·
The new data elements counting veterans and disconnected youth are
welcomed additions to the Section G report.
Module 4,
Section C: Individual and Family NPIs: (page # 55)
·
Include an NPI to measure individuals served who are already
employed at the time of first involvement with the CAA. This would
allow agencies to report the impact of crisis intervention and
stabilization efforts when a crisis threatens the employment of a
person served. This is a common problem faced by many low-income
people— their job is threatened by barriers as a result of
transportation, childcare, health, and housing. CAAs do not only
help people obtain employment, CAAs help people maintain their
employment to ensure family stability.
· Income
and asset building NPIs could be strengthened with the addition of
an NPI to measure debt reduction. Debt reduction is a common goal
of the people served by CAAs (and the general population), and
should be included as a way to measure success for our agencies.
· Reporting individuals who are able to
maintain an independent living situation as a result of CAA
services is another welcomed addition to the NPIs.
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Comment 69 (Lycoming-Clinton Counties
Commission For Community Action (Step), Inc.; Eligible
Entity/Local Agency in PA)
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Section A: Characteristics for
NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
- Improvements
made are appreciated. Is this talking about NEW Individuals over a
year or ever in our system? Head Start families can engage with us
for up to 5 years, so each year at enrollment are they counted as
NEW?
- This can be very difficult for some CAAs if they
do not already have a tracking system in place.
Module
4, Section D: Individual and Family Services: (page # 68-75)
-
For the Data Entry Forms could there be an ‘other’
category as there are services that are not detailed that data can
be gathered on, in terms of number of customers.
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Comment 71 (Maine Community Action
Association ; Other/Unknown in NE)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 72 (Massachusetts Community
Action Agency Planners’ Group; State Association in MA)
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Module 4: · Module 4,
Section A: Group had concerns and questions around the benefit of
trying to collect characteristics specifically on “new”
clients. How will this information be used? Creating an accurate
report would be very challenging. Often clients who appear “new”
had already been receiving services through another CAA and have
moved, or were previously included in a different household, or
may have participated in another program previously, which might
not be identified due to database and data sharing limitations.
· Module 4, Section B: As previously expressed,
the group has concerns around obtaining an accurate unduplicated
count and robust characteristics for all individuals and
households served. A great investment in data housing and
management would be required in order to resolve issues around
different databases not currently “speaking” to one
another; even if provided with the funding and capacity necessary
to solve these issues, different funders and partners who “own”
data are not always willing or able to share that data across
programs/partners.
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Comment 73 (Maui Economic Opportunity
Inc. ; Other/Unknown in HI)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 74 (Merced County Community
Action Agency ; Other/Unknown in CA)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 75 (Michigan Community Action
; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in MI)
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Module 4: 1. Module 4: Remove
the Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households Report.
This report has no practical utility at the local level given the
time and expense to create it at each local agency. This is not
necessary for agency performance, and the intentions outlined by
OCS for its use are not reflective of how local agencies and
states look at their communities to assess needs, develop
programs, and report progress. Unless clients could be enrolled in
federal and state programs for multiple years, the designation is
unnecessary.
-It also lacks utility at the state level
given that data such as this rolled up to the state level will be
skewed by large population centers like Detroit or Grand Rapids
and decrease the practical utility of the data even further.
Defining an individual or family as new becomes challenging when
they may receive different services over many years (e.g. Early
Head Start, child care, after school programs, youth programs, job
training, WIC, food boxes, LIHEAP, etc.) and when the expectation
is that eligibility is re-determined annually.
Module
4: Remove the Stability Indicators. The indicators selected and
included in the clearance package are not practical when reporting
customers stabilized as a result of the eligible entity's work.
One option duplicates data already collected and the second uses a
tool that defines financial stability that is statistically
incompatible with where income eligible clients begin their
journey out of poverty.
Module 4 - Individual and
Family Level: (pages 51-75)
No Comments
Module 4,
Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52)
1. 2. Remove this report in its entirety. It is
not necessary for the proper performance of the functions of the
agency, and when rolled up to the state, the information has no
practical utility. At a state level it will be misinterpreted and
can be influenced by what happens in larger population centers.
Two further points illustrate this issue. First, the
Characteristics report is of little use to determine if the agency
is responding to needs identified in its community assessment.
Demographic data alone does not identify the needs the new
customers may have and is therefore of limited utility in
comparison to data about individual, family, and community needs.
Second, since several core CAA programs (e.g. LIHEAP) have a large
number of new customers with limited or one time contact with the
agency, demographic data collected from the "low touch"
services would confuse meaningful analysis of demographic trends.
Third, many CAAs have to rely on data collected by their partners
and grantees (in the case of public agencies), many of whom may
have limited capacity to collect demographic data for new
individuals and households. Fourth, there are many practical
problems to identifying who constitutes a new customer or
household which also constitutes an additional data collection
burden on staff.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and
Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
I. 2. Remove the
indicator for 180 days except in cases when reporting in
conjunction with the Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act
(WIOA) when this time frame is required. Local entities are not
provided funding to track those receiving services for that period
of time, leading to an inability to report the data. Remove it
from Employment, Income and Asset Building, Housing, and Health
and Social/Behavioral Development. Many of the data collection
systems used by agencies also simply lack the fields or variables
to track time-related data, making collection of this information
burdensome at best and impossible at worst.
Remove the
Stability Indicators. The options available do not provide data to
answer the question on the data collection form on page 67, "The
following outcome indicators answer the following commonly asked
question: How many people (or families) are 'better off/lives
improved' because of CAAs work?" The first option is
duplicative effort to collect the data, and does not provide
meaningful information. The second option uses a survey that is
not specific to families with low-incomes and is too general to
provide information needed or sought. The Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau's Financial Well-Being Scale relies on
assumptions and definitions about what constitutes "well-being"
drawn from the general population. This will result in the
collection of data of limited utility for two reasons. First,
compared to what constitutes financial well-being as defined by
working and middle class Americans, the large majority of agency
customers will be at the lowest end of the scale, meaning there
will be little variance in the data to allow for meaningful
comparison. Second, what constitutes successful outcomes for most
agency customers would only result in slight changes on the scale.
For example, doubling savings from $50 to $100 a month would be
represent a substantial gain for many CAA customers, but would not
register on a scale that defines financial well-being based on the
assumptions and experiences of the average American. In short, the
scale is an inappropriate measure and will not result in the
collection of useful data.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67) Remove
this statement from the data collection form: Note: Tracking
outcomes for 180 days is the standard that agencies are expected
to work toward. The timeframe of 90 days is included to allow
agencies with current limited capacity to report on this timeframe
and to encourage quarterly review of data. The expectation is that
agencies will eventually report on the 180 day indicator. These
indicators would only be reported by those in a case management
program or similar intensive program where appropriate (i.e.
longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement leads the reader
to believe the future expectation will be much broader than
currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local agencies, and
the purpose and function of many of the programs operated by local
agencies. It should be edited to clearly state this is limited to
Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) activity.
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Comment 76 (Minnesota Community
Action Partnership; State Association in MN)
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Module 4: Individual and
Family Level
Module 4, Section A: Characteristics for
NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
· Remove
this report in its entirety. It is not necessary for the proper
performance of the functions of the agency, and when rolled up to
the state, the information has no practical utility. At a state
level it will be misinterpreted and can be influenced by what
happens in larger population centers.
· These
further points illustrate this issue. First, the Characteristics
report is of little use to determine if the agency is responding
to needs identified in its community assessment. Demographic data
alone does not identify the needs the new customers may have and
is therefore of limited utility in comparison to data about
individual, family, and community needs. Second, since several
core CAA programs (e.g. LIHEAP) have a large number of new
customers with limited or one time contact with the agency,
demographic data collected from the “low touch”
services would confuse meaningful analysis of demographic trends.
Third, many CAAs have to rely on data collected by their partners
and grantees (in the case of public agencies), many of whom may
have limited capacity to collect demographic data for new
individuals and households. Fourth, there are many practical
problems to identifying who constitutes a new customer or
household which also constitutes an additional data collection
burden on staff while simultaneously further eroding any public
policy value from aggregated data.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
·
Remove the indicator for 180 days except in cases when reporting
in conjunction with the Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act
(WIOA) requirements. Local entities are not provided funding to
track those receiving services for that period of time, leading to
an inability to report the data. Remove it from Employment, Income
and Asset Building, Housing, and Health and Social/Behavioral
Development. Many of the data collection systems used by agencies
also simply lack the fields or variables to track time-related
data, making collection of this information burdensome at best and
impossible at worst.
· Remove the Stability
Indicators. The options available do not provide data to answer
the question on the data collection form on page 67, “The
following outcome indicators answer the following commonly asked
question: How many people (or families) are 'better off/lives
improved’ because of CAAs work?” The first option is
duplicative effort to collect the data, and does not provide
meaningful information. The second option uses a survey that is
not specific to families with low-incomes and is too general to
provide information needed or sought. The Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau’s Financial Well-Being Scale relies on
assumptions and definitions about what constitutes “well-being”
drawn from the general population. This will result in the
collection of data of limited utility for two reasons. First,
compared to what constitutes financial well-being as defined by
working and middle class Americans, the large majority of agency
customers will be at the lowest end of the scale, meaning there
will be little variance in the data to allow for meaningful
comparison. Second, what constitutes successful outcomes for most
agency customers would only result in slight changes on the scale.
For example, doubling savings from $50 to $100 a month would be
represent a substantial gain for many CAA customers, but would not
register on a scale that defines financial well-being based on the
assumptions and experiences of the average American. In short, the
scale is an inappropriate measure and will not result in the
collection of useful data.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
·
Remove this statement from the data collection form: Note:
Tracking outcomes for 180 days is the standard that agencies are
expected to work toward. The time frame of 90 days is included to
allow agencies with current limited capacity to report on this
time frame and to encourage quarterly review of data. The
expectation is that agencies will eventually report on the 180 day
indicator. These indicators would only be reported by those in a
case management program or similar intensive program where
appropriate (i.e. longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement
leads the reader to believe the future expectation will be much
broader than currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local
agencies, and the purpose and function of many of the programs
operated by local agencies. It should be edited to clearly state
this is limited to Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA)
activity.
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Comment 77 (Minnesota Valley Action
Council, Inc. ; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in MN)
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Module 4: Module 4 -
Individual and Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4,
Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52)
This data is going to be skewed by large
programs such as LIHEAP. Just by volume alone, those seeking this
program vs. others are going to impact data.
It would be
helpful to have a definition of “New”
I see
what you are getting at with trying to collect his data, I’m
just not sure you are going to get the data you are really looking
for unless you can break it down by program or service the
individual is seeking. Local agencies can gather this information
more as part of a needs assessment, which would be more helpful,
rather than national reporting.
Module 4, Section B:
All Characteristics Report: (page # 53-54)
I question the
reason for reporting total number of individuals not included –
will this have negative impact on the agency? Can an agency choose
not to complete this report since other areas of the report are
optional based on information available?
Module 4,
Section C: Individual and Family NPIs: (page # 55)
I have
already commended on % being a figure we should not use.
Many
of these are subjective – “improved positive
approaches towards learning”, “improve home
environments,” “improved basic education” –
I would recommend this improvement be measured in some way or
eliminated from the report. Again, this lacks reliability in
reporting.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family
NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
Income and asset building:
“# individuals who increased their savings” – by
what? $1? $1000? – This doesn’t tell us anything
without more specifics or ranges. Health and Social/Behavioral
Development: #2, 3, 4, 5 are extremely subjective, difficult to
measure, and are moving targets. You can improve mental health and
then have a setback – so do we report this as a success or
not?
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI
Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67) Stability is difficult to assess.
#1 is now duplicating earlier reporting numbers.
Module
4, Section D: Individual and Family Services: (page # 68-75)
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Comment 78 (Missouri agency Inc. ;
Other/Unknown in MO)
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Module 4 - Individual and
Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
I
believe that the Characteristics for NEW Individuals and
Households Report should not be used. It is meaningless data, and
has no practical utility for our agency. I do not know how using
this basic demographic data will help our agency to determine that
we are meeting our customer’s needs. It does not show the
impact of our programs in any way.
Also,
defining an individual, or family as “new” is
extremely difficult. Many of the families we work with are on a
continuing basis from year to year, and may receive many different
services, such as LIHEAP, Head Start, Housing, etc. So, for those
families and individuals we serve over time, how would we define
“new”? This information is not needed in any way at
our agency, and will just be another financial burden considering
the time and expense it will take to compile.
Module
4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page #
56-67)
In Missouri, we already use the MO Family
Self-Sufficiency Scales (FSS Scales) to assess our customers
increase in stability. I believe that the FSS Scales can be
revised to include more information in order to meet the reporting
requirements for Stability #2. This would be a much more cost
effective solution for our state network, rather than using an
additional scale.
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Comment 79 (Missouri Community Action
Network (Can); State Association in MI)
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Module 4: - Individual and
Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
·
T/TA may be needed to ensure proper collecting of information,
including clarity around the definition of “new”. How
will this data be used?
Module 4, Section C: Individual
and Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
· These
make sense, but could still be condensed some. Not sure if the
general ones, such as Education #6 or Civic Engagement #1c, are
necessary as NPIs, but possibly just local indicators.
Module
4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page #
56-67)
· The planning accuracy percentage does not
seem necessary for the annual report, but is good for local
evaluation. This would also be a need for T/TA so agencies know
how to do this correctly and improve targeting.
·
The 180 day follow-up was somewhat of a concern, but the Missouri
State CSBG Administration has implemented an extended case
management option for FY17 to assist CAAs with following clients.
This allows for case management services to continue with clients
who have exceeded 125% of poverty for
up to 2 years to help
with maintenance of outcomes and stability. Even so, T/TA emphasis
may be needed on continued engagement and client follow-up.
·
Page 67: Stability, #2 – In Missouri, we use the Missouri
Family Self-Sufficiency Scale which already includes a subscale on
income that we could revise slightly to get more direct
information for this indicator. We would propose the option to do
this rather than use an additional scale.
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Comment 80 (Montgomery County
Community Action Development Commission; Other/Unknown in PA)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 81 (Multi-Service Center
(MSC) ; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in WA)
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Module 4: mission of CAAs in
our communities. Furthermore, our agency like many other agencies
throughout our state and, I would surmise, throughout the country,
does not currently have the capacity to provide a truly
unduplicated number of people receiving services by domain. Many
of our services such as energy assistance and housing/homeless
services have separate data reporting systems in our area.
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Comment 82 (National Association For
State Community Service Program ; Other/Unknown in N/A)
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Module 4: 6. Module 4
a.
Section A, Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
NASCSP recommends eliminating this report.
b. Section
C, NPIs Tracking 90 and 180 days: The proposed indicators tracking
outcomes for 90 and 180 days should remain in the CSBG Annual
Report, however the instruction and guidance for these indicators
should be modified. The instructions should clearly state that
CAAs are only expected to report on these outcomes if tracking
these indicators is already a part of programs that are designed
specifically to include follow up.
c. Section C,
Stability Measures: NASCSP recommends dropping Stability Measure
#2.
Module 4 – Individual and Family Level
NASCSP supports the majority of the modifications made to
Module 4. Specifically, NASCSP values the separation of outputs
and outcomes into the respective Services Report and NPI Report as
this will promote better analysis of the connection between
services and outcomes. While we support the general framework of
Module 4, there are concerns related to the Characteristics for
NEW Individuals and Households Report, the inclusion of an Other
Outcome Indicator, and the proposed Stability Measures.
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households
Report: NASCSP recognizes the importance of capturing
characteristic and demographic data on new individuals and
households served by local agencies. There are concerns related to
CAA’s ability to define and identify new participants,
database and system capacity, and the utility of this data at the
State and National Level. In other words, since there is such
broad variance in agency client tracking and data collection
systems across the CSBG Network, this report will only be as
reliable as the systems of the CAA completing it. Based on
complexities identified by the CSBG Network and NASCSP board,
NASCSP recommends this report be removed from the packet and, with
adequate funding and technical support in place, phased in at a
later date. This recommendation is based on the concerns raised by
the CSBG Network related to the feasibility of this report at this
point in time. We recommend that this be reconsidered during the
next OMB Clearance process.
National Performance
Indicators Tracking Outcomes for 90 and 180 Days: NASCSP
acknowledges that the indicators intended to track progress over
90 and 180 days are valuable in appropriate programs and
circumstances. However, not all programs are designed with follow
up in mind and/or follow up is not a feasible approach. The
current instructions state “The time frame of 90 days is
included to allow agencies with current limited capacity to report
on this same time frame and to encourage quarterly review of data.
The expectation is that CAAs will eventually report on the 180 day
indicator. These indicators would only be reported by those in a
case management program or similar intensive program where
appropriate (i.e. Longitudinal tracking)”. NASCSP recommends
modifying the instructions to make it clear that tracking
information will not be required for any CAAs and that the report
forms provide a place for capturing follow up where it is
appropriate. Specifically, NASCSP recommends striking the
statement “The expectation is that agencies will eventually
report on the 180 day indicator”.
Other Outcome
Indicator: The Community Level NPIs include an option to add an
Other Outcome Indicator. This allows for greater flexibility in
reporting and creates opportunity to capture the vast range of
outcomes achieved. NASCSP recognizes the addition of an Other
Outcome Indicator will require a greater level of training and
technical assistance, but believes the addition of an Other
Outcome Indicator option in Module 4 will ensure flexible
reporting around outcomes achieved that are not captured in the
standard set of indicators. In the current CSBG IS Survey, CAAs
have the opportunity to report on an Other indicator. To date,
this has not caused any significant challenges in the CSBG IS
Survey, and is a helpful method of identifying new ways CAAs are
addressing their work.
Stability Indicators: The
proposed Stability Measure #2 measures outcomes related to
financial well-being based on responses to the CFPB Financial Well
Being Scale. While this is a tested and validated scale, NASCSP
does not believe that financial well-being is an appropriate
national measure for measuring stability. Stability is more
complex and encompasses more than financial or economic stability
alone. Additionally, the set of questions, while validated and
accepted, are not questions that accurately represent the typical
experiences of individuals and families living at or below the
poverty line. NASCSP recommends this be removed from the annual
report and encouraged as a resource tool for agencies to use at
the local level at their own discretion.
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Comment 83 (National Community Action
Foundation ; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in N/A)
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Module 4: • The
individual and family indicators of success, that have been
clarified, are not fundamentally changed. They will continue to be
flawed because of the simplistic agency information systems that
we believe would have been a better focus for “next-generation”
upgrades. about the “new participant”
characteristics: In our April comments, we expressed concern that
the data required will be difficult to validate, to store and has
no practical application for making comparisons related to CAA
performance, a concern shared by the Community Action Partnership.
OCS provided additional explanations about this new report in a
July 6 webinar stating, in summary:
There is no
intention for the data on each year’s cohort of new
participants to be used as “before” data to contrast
to the same participants’ demographic characteristics at the
end of their participation in CAA programs.
OCS
clarified, instead it is:
1. A tool to allow local
agencies to compare their year-to-year entrants’
characteristics, situation and needs, and to understand, through a
time series analysis, trends in local residents’ needs.
Then, CAAs can compare those trends in ‘needs’ to the
priorities they identified in their Community Needs Assessment or
perhaps compare them to the priority populations and activities of
their strategic and annual plans. In other words, OCS explained
the new participant’s data should be used to see whether the
CAA recruited the populations and individuals of greatest concern
based on their Community Needs Assessment.
2. Or, it
can be used as a record of the trends in conditions of poverty,
which would allow the agency to track one year’s entrants
against past or subsequent years and determine whether any
observed evolution tracked their Community Needs Assessment. The
CSBG data systems in place today cannot be the source of reliable
data for a next generation of reports. There are significant
weaknesses in the current CSBG information system reports as a
result of the disaggregated nature of local information systems
and their lack of “Big Data” capacity. Those
weaknesses will simply carry from the current reports into the new
system’s reports. For example, the demographic snapshot,
provided in section G of current reports and Module 2 of the
proposed report, is made up of the data from the most recent
encounter with the participant during the year reported, as
opposed to over a brief interval of time, as is the practice in
the Census. Maintaining unique family identifiers for several
related people is a special challenge. Community Action Agencies
are positioned at the intersection of many domestic programs,
including private, state and local initiatives. Thus, CAAs’
method of achieving change for individuals, families and
communities depends on integrating and sequencing different
services and investments. The funders of those investments,
whether public or private, typically have their own customized
reporting system, including their own customized data requirements
and identifiers for participants. In other words, CAAs typically
report to numerous funders about the same participant or project.
This means CAAs must coordinate multiple funding sources for
various purposes and combinations of partners, each of which has
its own tracking requirements for the same participants or
project.
Today, much of the participant or project
tracking by CAA staff occurs by way of traditional narrative
files. In order to create an unduplicated tracking of one
individual or family, agency professionals struggle to disentangle
and integrate across the records for a family or project entered
in different systems. They then write down much of the details
they will need to track progress and needs. Every data requirement
attached to investments a CAA administers must be reconciled with
multiple other reports on the related investments, and only the
local agency can manage the combinations for which it is
responsible.
For most
participants, CSBG only funds the facility to which they come, the
professional coordinating the program and the staff managing data.
ROMA NG, properly executed, requires that each individual’s
file stores data on the contacts and nature of services in the
format required by the CSBG report, as well as in the other
formats required by all the other funders. Integrating this
information requires software and operations that select
information in different funder databases and transfer it to a
central file. Such software operations are generally known as data
warehouse management, which involves a higher level of IT skill
than most individual agencies or state associations possess.
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Comment 84 (National Community
Partnership ; Other/Unknown in ND)
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Module 4:
Module
4, Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52)
· Remove this report in its entirety. It
is not necessary for the proper performance of the functions of
the agency, and when rolled up to the state, the information has
no practical utility. At a state level it will be misinterpreted
and can be influenced by what happens in larger population
centers.
· Two further points illustrate this
issue. First, the Characteristics report is of little use to
determine if the agency is responding to needs identified in its
community assessment. Demographic data alone does not identify the
needs the new customers may have and is therefore of limited
utility in comparison to data about individual, family, and
community needs. Second, since several core CAA programs (e.g.
LIHEAP) have a large number of new customers with limited or one
time contact with the agency, demographic data collected from the
“low touch” services would confuse meaningful analysis
of demographic trends. Third, many CAAs have to rely on data
collected by their partners and grantees (in the case of public
agencies), many of whom may have limited capacity to collect
demographic data for new individuals and households. Fourth, there
are many practical problems to identifying who constitutes a new
customer or household which also constitutes an additional data
collection burden on staff.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
·
Remove the indicator for 180 days except in cases when reporting
in conjunction with the Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act
(WIOA) when this time frame is required. Local entities are not
provided funding to track those receiving services for that period
of time, leading to an inability to report the data. Remove it
from Employment, Income and Asset Building, Housing, and Health
and Social/Behavioral Development. Many of the data collection
systems used by agencies also simply lack the fields or variables
to track time-related data, making collection of this information
burdensome at best and impossible at worst.
·
Remove the Stability Indicators. The options available do not
provide data to answer the question on the data collection form on
page 67, “The following outcome indicators answer the
following commonly asked question: How many people (or families)
are 'better off/lives improved’ because of CAAs work?”
The first option is duplicative effort to collect the data, and
does not provide meaningful information. The second option uses a
survey that is not specific to families with low-incomes and is
too general to provide information needed or sought. The Consumer
Financial Protection Bureau’s Financial Well-Being Scale
relies on assumptions and definitions about what constitutes
“well-being” drawn from the general population. This
will result in the collection of data of limited utility for two
reasons. First, compared to what constitutes financial well-being
as defined by working and middle class Americans, the large
majority of agency customers will be at the lowest end of the
scale, meaning there will be little variance in the data to allow
for meaningful comparison. Second, what constitutes successful
outcomes for most agency customers would only result in slight
changes on the scale. For example, doubling savings from $50 to
$100 a month would be represent a substantial gain for many CAA
customers, but would not register on a scale that defines
financial well-being based on the assumptions and experiences of
the average American. In short, the scale is an inappropriate
measure and will not result in the collection of useful data.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Data
Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
· Remove this statement
from the data collection form: Note: Tracking outcomes for 180
days is the standard that agencies are expected to work toward.
The time frame of 90 days is included to allow agencies with
current limited capacity to report on this time frame and to
encourage quarterly review of data. The expectation is that
agencies will eventually report on the 180 day indicator. These
indicators would only be reported by those in a case management
program or similar intensive program where appropriate (i.e.
longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement leads the reader
to believe the future expectation will be much broader than
currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local agencies, and
the purpose and function of many of the programs operated by local
agencies. It should be edited to clearly state this is limited to
Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) activity.
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Comment 85 (Nek-Cap, Inc. (Northeast
Kansas Community Action Agency); Eligible Entity/Local Agency in
KS)
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Module 4: Module 4 Sections
A-D would require a significant amount of staff resources due to
the longer term follow up. However, I do concur it is the most
accurate method of documenting individual and family outcomes
associated with the direct result of CSBG interventions. This
would necessitate significant consumer cooperation and
self-reporting and/or a system for verification through external
sources in order to document specific outcomes. The current CAP 60
software system does have the capacity to capture such
information.
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Comment 86 (New England Community
Action Partnership (NECAP) ; State Association in CT)
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Module 4: Module 4 –
Individual and Family Level: (pages 51-75)
· Module
4, Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52) o Remove this report in its entirety. It is not
necessary for the proper performance of the functions of the
agency, and when rolled up to the state, the information has no
practical utility. At a state level it will be misinterpreted and
can be influenced by what happens in larger population centers.
· Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family
NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57) o Remove the indicator for 180
days except in cases when reporting in conjunction with the
Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) when this time
frame is required. Remove it from Employment, Income and Asset
Building, Housing, and Health and Social/Behavioral Development.
Many of the data collection systems used by agencies also simply
lack the fields or variables to track time-related data, making
collection of this information burdensome at best and impossible
at worst.
O Remove the Stability Indicators. The
options available do not provide data to answer the question on
the data collection form on page 67, “The following outcome
indicators answer the following commonly asked question: How many
people (or families) are 'better off/lives improved’ because
of CAAs work?” The first option is duplicative effort to
collect the data, and does not provide meaningful information. The
second option uses a survey that is not specific to families with
low-incomes and is too general to provide information needed or
sought. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau’s Financial
Well-Being Scale relies on assumptions and definitions about what
constitutes “well-being” drawn from the general
population. This will result in the collection of data of limited
utility for two reasons. First, compared to what constitutes
financial well-being as defined by working and middle class
Americans, the large majority of agency customers will be at the
lowest end of the scale, meaning there will be little variance in
the data to allow for meaningful comparison. Second, what
constitutes successful outcomes for most agency customers would
only result in slight changes on the scale. For example, doubling
savings from $50 to $100 a month would be represent a substantial
gain for many CAA customers, but would not register on a scale
that defines financial well-being based on the assumptions and
experiences of the average American. In short, the scale is an
inappropriate measure and will not result in the collection of
useful data.
· Module 4, Section
C: Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67) o
Remove this statement from the data collection form: Note:
Tracking outcomes for 180 days is the standard that agencies are
expected to work toward. The time frame of 90 days is included to
allow agencies with current limited capacity to report on this
time frame and to encourage quarterly review of data. The
expectation is that agencies will eventually report on the 180 day
indicator. These indicators would only be reported by those in a
case management program or similar intensive program where
appropriate (i.e. longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement
leads the reader to believe the future expectation will be much
broader than currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local
agencies, and the purpose and function of many of the programs
operated by local agencies. It should be edited to clearly state
this is limited to Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA)
activity.
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Comment 87 (New York Department Of
Youth And Community Development ; State in NY)
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Module 4: Module 4, Section A:
1. We recommend transforming “Gender” into two
separate variables, rather than just adding an “Other”
category to the existing variable. We suggest one “Sex”
variable, wherein the participant can select between female and
male (based on biological status at birth); and one “Gender”
category, wherein the participant can select or write in a
category based on their sense of self or self-identity.
2.
For Household Size, reinstate use of “Seven” and
“Eight or more” as discrete categories, rather than
collapse them into “Six or more” category.
3.
Define “Other permanent housing” category under
Housing variable.
Module 4, Section D:
1.
Requiring an unduplicated count of participants per activity,
program, or service listed is this module is confusing. There are
many scenarios in which participants can partake in multiple
programs (thereby receiving more than one activity listed) and/or
one program can provide multiple types of activities. In these
instances, decision-making on how to count participants would be
arbitrary, rather than illustrative of service provision.
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Comment 88 (New York State Community
Action Association; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in NY)
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Module 4: Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
·
This report should be removed as it does nothing to contribute to
the critical function of a CAA and when aggregated on the state
level, provides no useful information Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
·
Except when required by the Workforce Investment and Opportunity
Act (WIOA), the indicator for 180 days should be removed in all
sections. It is difficult if not impossible to track most
customers for that period of time and there is therefore little
value to asking CAAs to go to the time and expense required for
such long term data collection.
· The Stability
Indicators should be removed as they do little to help answer the
question of whether people’s lives are improved because of
the services received from a CAA. Because the majority of CAAs
customers have very low incomes, the improvements they make would
not be significant as measured by the suggested tools and scales
and the most commonly used measures of financial well-being are
based on the general population and therefore are not relevant to
the experiences of the low income people who are served by
CAAs.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI
Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
· The statement that
180 day tracking is the standard agencies should work toward
should be removed. This statement strongly indicates that this
will be the expectation in the future, an unrealistic and
unproductive goal with the exception of Workforce Investment and
Opportunity Act (WIOA) activity.
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Comment 89 (Ninth District
Opportunity, Inc.; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in GA)
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Section A: Characteristics for
NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
The logistics of
properly capturing short/long-term unemployment are likely to be a
burden on intake workers. While this could be a case management
talking point, it is not a necessary data field for all
clients.
Module 4, Section B: All Characteristics
Report: (page # 53-54)
The logistics of properly capturing
short/long-term unemployment are likely to be a burden on intake
workers. While this could be a case management talking point, it
is not a necessary data field for all clients. Capturing "VA
service related" vs. "non service related" will be
difficult for intake workers and is not necessary for national
aggregation. Otherwise, the new elements are very nice.
Module
4, Section C: Individual and Family NPIs:
Domains should be
numbered an in alignment with CSBG expenditure categories. Every
NPI category should have a direct link to a CSBG expenditure
category/service category. Every service/strategy should be able
to be linked to an outcome. While it is understood that the goal
of the network is to focus on long-term change, outcomes should
exist that coincide with the strategies listed under Support
services. Each NPI needs to be provided with a unique identifier
for consistent tracking purposes.
There should be an
indicator to track increased unearned income (child support,
disability, etc.). There should be an indicator to document
improved employment skills for adults, not just youth.
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Comment 90 (North Central Community
Action Program; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in WI)
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Module 4: -Tracking people for
180 days seems way out of the realm of anything that we could
manage. In some cases a contact with us is time limited.
-Tracking people who are “new” doesn’t
seem to serve a purpose. It also could imply that we are trying to
appease people who think community action only serves the same
people over and over. I feel like there is a value judgement
buried in there somewhere.
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Comment 91 (North Dakota Community
Action ; State Association in ND)
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Module 4: Module 4 -
Individual and Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4,
Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52)
Remove this report in its entirety. It is not
necessary for the proper performance of the functions of the
agency, and when rolled up to the state, the information has no
practical utility. At a state level it will be misinterpreted and
can be influenced by what happens in larger population
centers.
Two further points illustrate this issue.
First, the Characteristics report is of little use to determine if
the agency is responding to needs identified in its community
assessment. Demographic data alone does not identify the needs the
new customers may have and is therefore of limited utility in
comparison to data about individual, family, and community needs.
Second, since several core CAA programs (e.g. LIHEAP) have a large
number of new
customers with limited or one time contact with
the agency, demographic data collected from the "low touch"
services would confuse meaningful analysis of demographic trends.
Third, many CAAs have to rely on data collected by their partners
and grantees (in the case Of public agencies), many Of whom may
have limited capacity to collect demographic data for new
individuals and households. Fourth, there are many practical
problems to identifying who constitutes a new customer or
household which also constitutes an additional data collection
burden on staff.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and
Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57) Remove the indicator for
180 days except in cases when reporting in conjunction with the
Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) when this time
frame is required. Local entities are not provided funding to
track those receiving services for that period of time, leading to
an inability to report the data. Remove it from Employment, Income
and Asset Building, Housing, and Health and Social/Behavioral
Development. Many of the data collection systems used by agencies
also simply lack the fields or variables to track time-related
data, making collection of this information burdensome at best and
impossible at worst. Remove the Stability Indicators. The options
available do not provide data to answer the question on the data
collection form on page 67, "The following outcome indicators
answer the following commonly asked question: How many people (or
families) are 'better off/lives improved' because of CAAs work?"
The first option is duplicative effort to collect the data, and
does not provide meaningful information. The second option uses a
survey that is not specific to families with low-incomes and is
too general to provide information needed or sought. The Consumer
Financial Protection Bureau's Financial Well-Being Scale relies on
assumptions and definitions about what constitutes "well-being"
drawn from the general population. This will result in the
collection of data of limited utility for two reasons. First,
compared to what constitutes financial well-being as defined by
working and middle class Americans, the large majority of agency
customers will be at the lowest end of the scale, meaning there
will be little variance in the data to allow for meaningful
comparison. Second, what constitutes successful outcomes for most
agency customers would only result in slight changes on the scale.
For example, doubling savings from $50 to $100 a month would be
represent a substantial gain for many CAA customers, but would not
register on a scale that defines financial well-being based on the
assumptions and experiences of the average American. In short, the
scale is an inappropriate measure and will not result in the
collection of useful data.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67) o
Remove this statement from the data collection form: Note:
Tracking outcomes for 180 days is the standard that agencies are
expected to work toward. The time frame of 90 days is included to
allow agencies with current limited capacity to report on this
time frame and to encourage quarterly review of data. The
expectation is that agencies will eventually report on the 180 day
indicator. These indicators would only be reported by those in a
case management program or similar intensive program where
appropriate (i.e. longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement
leads the reader to believe the future expectation will be much
broader than currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local
agencies, and the purpose and function of many of the programs
operated by local agencies. It should be edited to clearly state
this is limited to Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA)
activity. If there are any questions about the submitted, please
contact me via email: andreao@capnd.org
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Comment 92 (North Dakota Department
Of Commerce; State in ND)
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Module 4:
Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
·
Remove this report in its entirety. It is not necessary for the
proper performance of the functions of the agency, and when rolled
up to the state, the information has no practical utility. At a
state level it will be misinterpreted and can be influenced by
what happens in larger population centers.
·
The Characteristics report is of little use to determine if the
agency is responding to needs identified in its community
assessment. Demographic data alone does not identify the needs the
new customers may have and is therefore of limited utility in
comparison to data about individual, family, and community needs.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Landing
Page: (page # 55-57)
· Remove the indicator for 180
days except in cases when reporting in conjunction with the
Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) when this time
frame is required. Local entities are not provided funding to
track those receiving services for that period of time, leading to
an inability to report the data. Remove it from Employment, Income
and Asset Building, Housing, and Health and Social/Behavioral
Development. Many of the data collection systems used by agencies
also simply lack the fields or variables to track time-related
data, making collection of this information burdensome at best and
impossible at worst.
· Remove the Stability
Indicators. The options available do not provide data to answer
the question on the data collection form on page 67, “The
following outcome indicators answer the following commonly asked
question: How many people (or families) are 'better off/lives
improved’ because of CAAs work?” The first option is
duplicative effort to collect the data, and does not provide
meaningful information. The second option uses a survey that is
not specific to families with low-incomes and is too general to
provide information needed or sought. The Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau’s Financial Well-Being Scale relies on
assumptions and definitions about what constitutes “well-being”
drawn from the general population. This will result in the
collection of data of limited utility for two reasons. First,
compared to what constitutes financial well-being as defined by
working and middle class Americans, the large majority of agency
customers will be at the lowest end of the scale, meaning there
will be little variance in the data to allow for meaningful
comparison. Second, what constitutes successful outcomes for most
agency customers would only result in slight changes on the scale.
For example, doubling savings from $50 to $100 a month would be
represent a substantial gain for many CAA customers, but would not
register on a scale that defines financial well-being based on the
assumptions and experiences of the average American. In short, the
scale is an inappropriate measure and will not result in the
collection of useful data.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
·
Remove this statement from the data collection form: Note:
Tracking outcomes for 180 days is the standard that agencies are
expected to work toward. The time frame of 90 days is included to
allow agencies with current limited capacity to report on this
time frame and to encourage quarterly review of data. The
expectation is that agencies will eventually report on the 180 day
indicator. These indicators would only be reported by those in a
case management program or similar intensive program where
appropriate (i.e. longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement
leads the reader to believe the future expectation will be much
broader than currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local
agencies, and the purpose and function of many of the programs
operated by local agencies. It should be edited to clearly state
this is limited to Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA)
activity.
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Comment 93 (North Dakota Lead Agency;
State in ND)
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Module 4: Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
·
Remove this report in its entirety. It is not necessary for the
proper performance of the functions of the agency, and when rolled
up to the state, the information has no practical utility. At a
state level it will be misinterpreted and can be influenced by
what happens in larger population centers.
· The
Characteristics report is of little use to determine if the agency
is responding to needs identified in its community assessment.
Demographic data alone does not identify the needs the new
customers may have and is therefore of limited utility in
comparison to data about individual, family, and community
needs.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI
Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
· Remove the indicator
for 180 days except in cases when reporting in conjunction with
the Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) when this time
frame is required. Local entities are not provided funding to
track those receiving services for that period of time, leading to
an inability to report the data. Remove it from Employment, Income
and Asset Building, Housing, and Health and Social/Behavioral
Development. Many of the data collection systems used by agencies
also simply lack the fields or variables to track time-related
data, making collection of this information burdensome at best and
impossible at worst.
· Remove the Stability
Indicators. The options available do not provide data to answer
the question on the data collection form on page 67, “The
following outcome indicators answer the following commonly asked
question: How many people (or families) are 'better off/lives
improved’ because of CAAs work?” The first option is
duplicative effort to collect the data, and does not provide
meaningful information. The second option uses a survey that is
not specific to families with low-incomes and is too general to
provide information needed or sought. The Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau’s Financial Well-Being Scale relies on
assumptions and definitions about what constitutes “well-being”
drawn from the general population. This will result in the
collection of data of limited utility for two reasons. First,
compared to what constitutes financial well-being as defined by
working and middle class Americans, the large majority of agency
customers will be at the lowest end of the scale, meaning there
will be little variance in the data to allow for meaningful
comparison. Second, what constitutes successful outcomes for most
agency customers would only result in slight changes on the scale.
For example, doubling savings from $50 to $100 a month would be
represent a substantial gain for many CAA customers, but would not
register on a scale that defines financial well-being based on the
assumptions and experiences of the average American. In short, the
scale is an inappropriate measure and will not result in the
collection of useful data.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
·
Remove this statement from the data collection form: Note:
Tracking outcomes for 180 days is the standard that agencies are
expected to work toward. The time frame of 90 days is included to
allow agencies with current limited capacity to report on this
time frame and to encourage quarterly review of data. The
expectation is that agencies will eventually report on the 180 day
indicator. These indicators would only be reported by those in a
case management program or similar intensive program where
appropriate (i.e. longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement
leads the reader to believe the future expectation will be much
broader than currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local
agencies, and the purpose and function of many of the programs
operated by local agencies. It should be edited to clearly state
this is limited to Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA)
activity.
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Comment 94 (Northeast Kansas
Community Action Agency; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in KS)
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Module 4: Module 4 -
Individual and Family Level:
Module 4 Sections A-D would
require a significant amount of staff resources due to the longer
term follow up. However, I do concur it is the most accurate
method of documenting individual and family outcomes associated
with the direct result of CSBG interventions. This would
necessitate significant consumer cooperation and self-reporting
and/or a system for verification through external sources in order
to document specific outcomes. The current CAP 60 software system
does have the capacity to capture such information.
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Comment 95 (Northeast Pennsylvania
Community Action Agency; Other/Unknown in PA)
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Module 4: While the Community
Services Block Grant (CSBG) Annual report serves the purpose of
reporting the outstanding accomplishments of agencies, entities,
associations and partnerships, one critical area is missing,
emergency services. An emergency is defined as an unexpected or
difficult situation, which happens suddenly and which requires an
expedited response. In the state of Pennsylvania 40 of the 41
Community Action Agencies administer programs that directly relate
to providing emergency services. These emergency services include
but are not limited to, emergency sheltering, emergency food,
emergency rent/mortgage assistance, and emergency heating
assistance. Often times those cases that require immediate,
emergency services are one time assistance. These difficult and
frequent cases will not have a 90 or 180 day outcome as the
resolution, in most cases, is immediate. This is of concern, as
agencies will not have the opportunity to report an outcome on
these countless individuals, children and families who face
difficult daily challenges that require immediate intervention.
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Comment 96 (Northern Tier Community
Action Corp. ; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in PA)
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Module 4: Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (Page # 52)
Is there a real value in tracking characteristics of new
individuals and households vs. tracking characteristics already
being tracked?
Module 4, Section B: All Characteristics
Report: (page 53-54)
No Comment
Module 4, Section
C: Individual and Family NPls: (page 55)
No Comment
Module
4, Section C: Individual and Family Landing page: (page 55-57)
Section asks us to report on outcomes at 180 days. It is
often difficult even to report on client outcomes at 90 days out.
Many of the client services are provided over 30 — 60 - 90
day period of time and we may never see the client again. To
follow-up with that client at 180 days out is going to take time
away from the case manager working with additional
clients.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI
Data Entry Forms: (page 56-67)
Section asks us to report on
outcomes at 180 days. 't is often difficult even to report on
client outcomes at 90 days out. Many of the client services are
provided over a 30 — 60 - 90 day period of time and we may
never see the client again. To follow-up with that client at 180
days out is going to take time away from the case manager working
with additional clients.
Module 4, Section D:
Individual and Family Services: (page 68-75) No Comment
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Comment 98 (NORWESCAP; Eligible
Entity/Local Agency in NJ)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 99 (Northeast Community
Action Agency ; Other/Unknown in FL)
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Module 4: Module 4 -
Individual and Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4,
Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52)
The Characteristics for NEW Individuals and
Households poses the most concerns will probably be the most
burdensome and concerning section. Several concerns include:
*
System updates to capture the new data (cost and programming
issues)
* Staff training to accurately collect the data.
*
Additional resources to collect and quality review the data.
*
Data will not provide agencies with valid, reliable, and useful
data.
Module 4, Section B: All Characteristics Report:
(page # 53-54)
No Comment: Minor changes to data already
being collected by most agencies that have client tracking
systems.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family
NPIs: (page # 55)
No Comment
Module 4, Section
C: Individual and Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
Living
Wage Outcomes should be removed as few communities have
established living wages and there is no consistency to this
outcome. Stability indicators should be deleted and re-worded.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Data
Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
Tracking outcomes for 180 would
add an additional burden on agency staff with limited resources.
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Comment 100 (Nothing Compares;
Other/Unknown in NC)
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Module 4: Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
Consider including "total unduplicated number of all
individuals about whom no characteristics were obtained" and
"total unduplicated number of all households about whom no
characteristics were obtained". Based on the 2014 CSBG Annual
Report, the number individuals whom no characteristics were
obtained accounted for 20% of the 15.7 million individuals
reported. The number families whom no characteristics were
obtained accounted for 15% of the 6.7 million
families
reported. Agencies in NC have indicated some funding sources
prohibit characteristics from being obtained. Omitting these items
may hinder full analysis and result in the appearance of less
individuals/ households being served than actually were. Further,
past data collected indicates serving individuals and households
for which characteristics are not obtained is part of
the
community action story documenting services rendered.
It
should be noted that there will be challenges and a lack of
consistency with defining, identifying and tracking new
participants.
Module 4, Section B: All Characteristics
Report: (page # 53-54)
Remove all items that indicate an
estimated number of individuals and families not included in this
report. There is no defined purpose for nor a way to validate this
information.
Module 4, Section C
Remove
"The expectation is that agencies will eventually report on
the 180 day indicator" and modify the instructions to state
that tracking information will not be required for any CAA and
that the report forms provide a place for capturing follow up
where it is appropriate. Other general points are as follows:
•L
Under the current annual report structure, local agencies have 5
report sections in which they may report. Under the proposed
annual report structure, local agencies have at least 9 sections
in which they may report. ROMA Next Gen should make every effort
possible to streamline reporting and decrease opportunities for
misreporting. The accuracy and ultimately quality of information
gathered in the proposed report is questionable as no single,
agency-wide data collection software has been offered as a
model
for combining all community action programs for tracking to meet
the requirements of this report with unduplicated information.
Should such a system exist, agencies would likely need additional
funding to supplement the related expense.
•L The
estimated burden associated with completing this Annual Report is
likely underestimated because of the unknown variables and
significant increase in information collected. u- North Carolina
continues to advocate for a National Goal that clearly links the
Network's effort to eliminate poverty since the primary purpose of
CSBG is poverty reduction, community revitalization and
empowerment of families to become self-sufficient as indicated in
current legislation. Specifically, we recommend a national goal
that speaks to poverty reduction that defines what poverty is and
is ultimately linked to performance indicators representing family
level movement up the % of poverty income scale.
North
Carolina's Office of Economic Opportunity believes that the
state's administrative oversight is the linchpin for successful
CSBG operations and has been active on all workgroups in
expressing feedback for every effort supporting the Performance
Management Framework. It is our hope that NC's experience,
expertise and commitment to ensuring that low-income
families
have access to best available resources through CSBG will be given
consideration as ROMA Next Gen is vetted and finalized. We further
believe that NASCSP has a reputable history of progressive
leadership, qualified and committed staff and a track record of
demonstrated effectiveness in performance with ROMA and other CSBG
Training and Technical Assistance efforts. Therefore, we further
hope that OCS will accept final recommendations from NASCSP as to
what will best depict the work of the CSBG network. Together, we
are confident that we will achieve the desired breakthrough
results and demonstrate accountability and transparency while
stewarding the resources obtained through the Community Services
Block Grant.
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Comment 101 (Ohio Association Of
Community Action Agencies; Other/Unknown in OH)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 102 (Opportunities For
Otsego, Inc. ; Other/Unknown in NY)
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Module 4: Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
·
Remove this report in its entirety. It is not necessary for the
proper performance of the functions of the agency, and when rolled
up to the state, the information has no practical utility. At a
state level it will be misinterpreted and can be influenced by
what happens in larger population centers.
·
Two further points illustrate this issue. First, the
Characteristics report is of little use to determine if the agency
is responding to needs identified in its community assessment.
Demographic data alone does not identify the needs the new
customers may have and is therefore of limited utility in
comparison to data about individual, family, and community needs.
Second, since several core CAA programs (e.g. LIHEAP) have a large
number of new customers with limited or one time contact with the
agency, demographic data collected from the “low touch”
services would confuse meaningful analysis of demographic trends.
Third, many CAAs have to rely on data collected by their partners
and grantees (in the case of public agencies), many of whom may
have limited capacity to collect demographic data for new
individuals and households. Fourth, there are many practical
problems to identifying who constitutes a new customer or
household which also constitutes an additional data collection
burden on staff. Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI
Landing Page:
· Remove the indicator for 180
days except in cases when reporting in conjunction with the
Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) when this time
frame is required. Local entities are not provided funding to
track those receiving services for that period of time, leading to
an inability to report the data. Remove it from Employment, Income
and Asset Building, Housing, and Health and Social/Behavioral
Development. Many of the data collection systems used by agencies
also simply lack the fields or variables to track time-related
data, making collection of this information burdensome at best and
impossible at worst.
· Remove the Stability
Indicators. The options available do not provide data to answer
the question on the data collection form on page 67, “The
following outcome indicators answer the following commonly asked
question: How many people (or families) are 'better off/lives
improved’ because of CAAs work?” The first option is
duplicative effort to collect the data, and does not provide
meaningful information. The second option uses a survey that is
not specific to families with low-incomes and is too general to
provide information needed or sought. The Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau’s Financial Well-Being Scale relies on
assumptions and definitions about what constitutes “well-being”
drawn from the general population. This will result in the
collection of data of limited utility for two reasons. First,
compared to what constitutes financial well-being as defined by
working and middle class Americans, the large majority of agency
customers will be at the lowest end of the scale, meaning there
will be little variance in the data to allow for meaningful
comparison. Second, what constitutes successful outcomes for most
agency customers would only result in slight changes on the scale.
For example, doubling savings from $50 to $100 a month would be
represent a substantial gain for many CAA customers, but would not
register on a scale that defines financial well-being based on the
assumptions and experiences of the average American. In short, the
scale is an inappropriate measure and will not result in the
collection of useful data.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
·
Remove this statement from the data collection form: Note:
Tracking outcomes for 180 days is the standard that agencies are
expected to work toward. The time frame of 90 days is included to
allow agencies with current limited capacity to report on this
time frame and to encourage quarterly review of data. The
expectation is that agencies will eventually report on the 180 day
indicator. These indicators would only be reported by those in a
case management program or similar intensive program where
appropriate (i.e. longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement
leads the reader to believe the future expectation will be much
broader than currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local
agencies, and the purpose and function of many of the programs
operated by local agencies. It should be edited to clearly state
this is limited to Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA)
activity.
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Comment 103 (Oregon Housing And
Community Services ; Other/Unknown in OR)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 104 (People Incorporated Of
Virginia; Other/Unknown in VA)
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Module 4: - Individual and
Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
Remove this report in its entirety. This report has no
practical utility at the local level given the time and expense to
create it at each local agency. This is not necessary for agency
performance, and the intentions outlined by OCS for its use are
not reflective of how local agencies and states look at their
communities to assess needs, develop programs, and report
progress. It also lacks utility at the state level given that data
such as this rolled up to the state level will be skewed by large
population centers and decrease the practical utility of the data
even further. This agency -and many others- lack management
information systems with the capacity to disaggregate this type of
data from its overall customer database, so this would require a
substantial change to client MIS systems.
Finally,
People Incorporated serves families over time, and with no
definition of “new” being provided for review, staff
will be unable to implement this report consistently. Defining an
individual or family as new becomes challenging when they may
receive different services over many years (e.g. Early Head Start,
child care, after school programs, youth programs, job training,
WIC, food boxes, etc.).
Module 4, Section B: All
Characteristics Report: (page # 53-54)
No comment.
Module
4, Section C: Individual and Family NPIs: (page # 55)
No
comment.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family
NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
Remove the indicator for
180 days except in cases when reporting in conjunction with the
Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) when this time
frame is required. Local entities are not provided funding to
track those receiving services for that period of time, leading to
an inability to report the data. Remove it from Employment, Income
and Asset Building, Housing, and Health and Social/Behavioral
Development. Many of the data collection systems used by agencies
also simply lack the fields or variables to track time-related
data, making collection of this information burdensome at best and
impossible at worst.
Remove the Stability Indicators.
The options available do not provide data to answer the question
on the data collection form on page 67, “The following
outcome indicators answer the following commonly asked question:
How many people (or families) are 'better off/lives improved’
because of CAAs work?” The first option is duplicative
effort to collect the data, and does not provide meaningful
information. The second option uses a survey that is not specific
to families with low incomes and is too general to provide
information needed or sought. The Consumer Financial Protection
Bureau’s Financial Well-Being Scale relies on assumptions
and definitions about what constitutes “well-being”
drawn from the general population. This will result in the
collection of data of limited utility for two reasons. First,
compared to what constitutes financial well-being as defined by
working and middle class Americans, the large majority of agency
customers will be at the lowest end of the scale, meaning there
will be little variance in the data to allow for meaningful
comparison. Second, what constitutes successful outcomes for most
agency customers would only result in slight changes on the scale.
For example, doubling savings from $50 to $100 a month would be
represent a substantial gain for many CAA customers, but would not
register on a scale that defines financial well-being based on the
assumptions and experiences of the average American. The scale is
an inappropriate measure and will not result in the collection of
useful data.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and
Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
Remove this
statement from the data collection form: Note: Tracking outcomes
for 180 days is the standard that agencies are expected to work
toward. The time frame of 90 days is included to allow agencies
with current limited capacity to report on this time frame and to
encourage quarterly review of data. The expectation is that
agencies will eventually report on the 180 day indicator. These
indicators would only be reported by those in a case management
program or similar intensive program where appropriate (i.e.
longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement leads the reader
to believe the future expectation will be much broader than
currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local agencies, and
the purpose and function of many of the programs operated by local
agencies. It should be edited to clearly state this is limited to
Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) activity, or other
programs that fund this follow-up.
Module 4, Section
D: Individual and Family Services: (page # 68-75)
No
comment.
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Comment 105 (Proaction Of Steuben And
Yates Inc.; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in NY)
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Module 4: Individual and
Family Level: (pages 51-75)
· No Comments
Module
4, Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52)
· Remove this report in its entirety. It
is not necessary for the proper performance of the functions of
the agency, and when rolled up to the state, the information has
no practical utility. At a state level it will be misinterpreted
and can be influenced by what happens in larger population
centers.
· Two further points illustrate this
issue. First, the Characteristics report is of little use to
determine if the agency is responding to needs identified in its
community assessment. Demographic data alone does not identify the
needs the new customers may have and is therefore of limited
utility in comparison to data about individual, family, and
community needs. Second, since several core CAA programs (e.g.
LIHEAP) have a large number of new customers with limited or one
time contact with the agency, demographic data collected from the
“low touch” services would confuse meaningful analysis
of demographic trends. Third, many CAAs have to rely on data
collected by their partners and grantees (in the case of public
agencies), many of whom may have limited capacity to collect
demographic data for new individuals and households. Fourth, there
are many practical problems to identifying who constitutes a new
customer or household which also constitutes an additional data
collection burden on staff.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
·
Remove the indicator for 180 days except in cases when reporting
in conjunction with the Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act
(WIOA) when this time frame is required. Local entities are not
provided funding to track those receiving services for that period
of time, leading to an inability to report the data. Remove it
from Employment, Income and Asset Building, Housing, and Health
and Social/Behavioral Development. Many of the data collection
systems used by agencies also simply lack the fields or variables
to track time-related data, making collection of this information
burdensome at best and impossible at worst.
·
Remove the Stability Indicators. The options available do not
provide data to answer the question on the data collection form on
page 67, “The following outcome indicators answer the
following commonly asked question: How many people (or families)
are 'better off/lives improved’ because of CAAs work?”
The first option is duplicative effort to collect the data, and
does not provide meaningful information. The second option uses a
survey that is not specific to families with low-incomes and is
too general to provide information needed or sought. The Consumer
Financial Protection Bureau’s Financial Well-Being Scale
relies on assumptions and definitions about what constitutes
“well-being” drawn from the general population. This
will result in the collection of data of limited utility for two
reasons. First, compared to what constitutes financial well-being
as defined by working and middle class Americans, the large
majority of agency customers will be at the lowest end of the
scale, meaning there will be little variance in the data to allow
for meaningful comparison. Second, what constitutes successful
outcomes for most agency customers would only result in slight
changes on the scale. For example, doubling savings from $50 to
$100 a month would be represent a substantial gain for many CAA
customers, but would not register on a scale that defines
financial well-being based on the assumptions and experiences of
the average American. In short, the scale is an inappropriate
measure and will not result in the collection of useful
data.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI
Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
· Remove this
statement from the data collection form: Note: Tracking outcomes
for 180 days is the standard that agencies are expected to work
toward. The time frame of 90 days is included to allow agencies
with current limited capacity to report on this time frame and to
encourage quarterly review of data. The expectation is that
agencies will eventually report on the 180 day indicator. These
indicators would only be reported by those in a case management
program or similar intensive program where appropriate (i.e.
longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement leads the reader
to believe the future expectation will be much broader than
currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local agencies, and
the purpose and function of many of the programs operated by local
agencies. It should be edited to clearly state this is limited to
Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) activity.
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Comment 106 (Project Bravo; Eligible
Entity/Local Agency in TX)
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Module 4: population is made
up of a high percentage of immigrants, many of them are not
documented. In addition to having one of the poorest zip codes in
the United States, we have isolated colonial communities and a
large military base. It is very difficult to keep up with our very
mobile population. Keeping current phone numbers and addresses has
always been a challenge and we do our best to follow-up and
document positive outcomes. The simpler the process for follow-up
is, the more likely clients are to comply and provide information
on a timely basis. I fear that our ability to report on outcomes
will be compromised if we add more requirements and data points to
gather. Our organization will have to designate people to work
solely on gathering data rather than providing client services in
order to comply with new requirements.
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Comment 107 (Pueblo County Housing
And Human Services; Other/Unknown in CO)
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Module 4: Module 4: Individual
and Family Level / Stated above
1. Whether the proposed
collection of information is necessary for the proper performance
of the functions of the agency, including whether the information
shall have practical utility
2. The accuracy of the
agency’s estimate of the burden of the proposed collection
of information
3. The quality, utility, and clarity of
the information to be collected; and
4. Ways to
minimize the burden of the collection of information on
respondents, including through the use of automated collection
techniques or other forms of information technology.
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Comment 108 (Redwood Community Action
Agency ; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in CA)
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Module 4: Module 4 -
Individual and Family Level:
The capacity to collect
unduplicated information on individuals and families in Section A
and B is not within the technical or programmatic abilities of
many CAAs due to the breadth of programs and operators providing
the diverse range of services in local communities. The data
collection systems either have conflicting ranges and
confidentiality restrictions or do not interact at all. Specific
technology upgrades to existing intake procedures and different
individual client interactions would be required; this would
result in significantly increased burden for information
collection than anticipated in the proposed rule. The collection
of this information is not necessary for the proper performance
of
the functions of the agency services.
In
Section C, requiring eligible entities to determine and rate
employment goals based on "living wage" (which will
differ drastically in communities) will not have practical
utility. This is due to a variety of factors but most importantly
due to the number of days (given the expectation for reporting at
90 or 180 days) it is likely that the client may achieve
employment out of the service area which may have significantly
different living wage. The expectation that entities would need to
determine the living wage
for every client that may leave the
area to attain employment will require an abundant amount of time,
far exceeding the expected burden listed currently in this rule.
The proposed collection of information is not necessary for the
proper performance of the functions of the agency services and
presents undue financial and staff burdens
Furthermore,
our organization feels that the requirement to report on outcomes
for clients served broken out based on age (especially the
children/youth categories) will be cumbersome and at times
impossible due to differing reporting systems and requirements
which are not funded by CSBG. Section C also asks to report on
Civic Engagement which, while important overall, also requires
intensive surveying in order to meet the new proposed requirements
to show leadership skills, social networking and ability to
engage; we recommend that "a-c" be eliminated due to
that fact that this will significantly increase the time burden on
reporting and not have practical utility. In addition, the final
portion of this Section asks entities to utilize a client survey
of financial well-being which is not viewed as an appropriate tool
for many clients and an incomplete measure of this outcome.
Finally, in Section D the
requirement for measuring unduplicated individuals meeting at
least one of the NPI outcomes is not necessary for the proper
performance of the functions of the agency services.
The
capacity to collect Unduplicated information on individuals and
families is not within the technical or programmatic abilities of
many CAAs due to the breadth of programs and operators providing
the diverse range of services in local communities. The data
collection systems have conflicting ranges and confidentiality
restrictions and/or do not interact at all. Specific technology
upgrades to existing data collection procedures and different
individual client interactions would be required; this would
result in significantly more burden for information collection
than anticipated in the proposed rule.
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Comment 109 (Sa Howell, LLC ;
Other/Unknown in GA)
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Module 4: If multiple
characteristics reports are to be used, it makes more sense to
include a pre/post document showing the progress made during
program enrollment as it relates to employment, income, education
level, etc. This makes more sense than the “new individual”
report. The logistics of properly capturing short/long-term
unemployment are likely to be a burden on intake workers and are
completely unnecessary for national data aggregation.
Module
4, Section B
The new format is very nice. The logistics of
properly capturing short/long-term unemployment are likely to be a
burden on intake workers and are completely unnecessary for
national data aggregation. Capturing “VA service related”
vs “non service related” will be an unnecessary
hardship on frontline staff members.
Module 4, Section
C
Domains should be numbered and in alignment with CSBG
expenditure categories. Every NPI category should have a direct
link to a CSBG expenditure and service category. Every
service/strategy should be able to be linked to an outcome. While
it is understood that the goal of the network is to focus on
long-term change, short-term outcomes should exist that coincide
with the strategies listed under support services. Identifying
which applicants obtain employment up to living wage vs. living
wage and higher will be an undue hardship on intake workers and
could be measured by a pre/post characteristic report much easier.
It is expected that this data will be inaccurate due to incorrect
reporting, anyway. Each NPI should be assigned a unique
identifying number for consisting tracking purposes. The number
should align with service/expenditure categories. There should be
an indicator to track increased unearned income (child support,
disability, etc.) or other household resources that may increase
economic stability. There should be an indicator to document
improved employment skills for adults, not just youth.
Module
4, Section D
Apprenticeships and internships should include
college internships and senior citizen employment programs, not
just youth. “Home visits in the education section should be
moved to a category where it can be used for all programs. It is
not necessary to specifically track, on a national level, how many
educational home visits were made as opposed to those for other
programs. Financial capability skills training, financial
coaching, and budgeting can be consolidated and defined on a local
or state level. Too many options will confuse agency
administrators and intake workers, resulting inconsistent (aka
useless) data. Credit counseling and credit repair counseling can
be consolidated and defined on a local level. Too many options
will confuse agency administrators an intake workers resulting in
inconsistent (useless) data. Financial capability skills training
and financial coaching/counseling should not be in the housing
section. While it is understood they can be related to housing
indirectly (and other domains), this is contrary to ROMA
principles. There should be an area to count non-prescription
medical supplies. There should be a follow-up activity
There
should be an “other” option for every service
category.
Additional thoughts: States using certain
software systems will not be greatly impacted, as they fully
support ROMA implementation and can be easily in compliance with
the new data fields. Other states may need to consider a
transition to a new system. The national network should consider a
standardized reporting format (similar to HMIS) that will allow
for data fields to be easily mapped for aggregation on a national
level. As software packages are available that meet the
requirements at a very reasonable cost, the financial burden will
be primarily in the training of staff to use a better tracking
system. Further, many of the requirements that are included in the
cost burden estimates have been mandated for more than 20 years.
The cost burden to high performing organizations with an adequate
tracking system will be very minimal.
A stronger
emphasis should be made on an agency-wide unduplicated count for
all programs.
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Comment 110 (SEMCAC; Eligible
Entity/Local Agency in MN)
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No Comments
Module
4, Section A: Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households:
(page # 52)
· Remove this report in its entirety. It
is not necessary for the proper performance of the functions of
the agency, and when rolled up to the state, the information has
no practical utility. At a state level it will be misinterpreted
and can be influenced by what happens in larger population
centers. OR at the very least, clearly define the use of the word
“new”. This page seems completely unnecessary.
Consider providing it as an internal document for CAP agencies to
utilize, should they so choose, for their annual reporting.
·
First, the Characteristics report is of little use to determine if
the agency is responding to needs identified in its community
assessment. Demographic data alone does not identify the needs the
new customers may have and is therefore of limited utility in
comparison to data about individual, family, and community needs.
Second, since several core CAA programs (e.g. LIHEAP) have a large
number of new customers with limited or one time contact with the
agency, demographic data collected from the “low touch”
services would confuse meaningful analysis of demographic trends.
Third, many CAAs have to rely on data collected by their partners
and grantees (in the case of public agencies), many of whom may
have limited capacity to collect demographic data for new
individuals and households. Fourth, there are many practical
problems to identifying who constitutes a new customer or
household which also constitutes an additional data collection
burden on staff.
Module 4, Section B: All
Characteristics Report: (page # 53-54)
· No
Comments
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family
NPIs: (page # 55)
· No Comments
Module 4,
Section C: Individual and Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
· Remove the indicator for 180 days except in cases
when reporting in conjunction with the Workforce Investment and
Opportunity Act (WIOA) when this time frame is required. Local
entities are not provided funding to track those receiving
services for that period of time, leading to an inability to
report the data. Remove it from Employment, Income and Asset
Building, Housing, and Health and Social/Behavioral Development.
Many of the data collection systems used by agencies also simply
lack the fields or variables to track time-related data, making
collection of this information burdensome at best and impossible
at worst.
· Remove the Stability Indicators. The
options available do not provide data to answer the question on
the data collection form on page 67, “The following outcome
indicators answer the following commonly asked question: How many
people (or families) are 'better off/lives improved’ because
of CAAs work?” The first option is duplicative effort to
collect the data, and does not provide meaningful information. The
second option uses a survey that is not specific to families with
low-incomes and is too general to provide information needed or
sought. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau’s Financial
Well-Being Scale relies on assumptions and definitions about what
constitutes “well-being” drawn from the general
population. This will result in the collection of data of limited
utility for two reasons. First, compared to what constitutes
financial well-being as defined by working and middle class
Americans, the large majority of agency customers will be at the
lowest end of the scale, meaning there will be little variance in
the data to allow for meaningful comparison. Second, what
constitutes successful outcomes for most agency customers would
only result in slight changes on the scale. For example, doubling
savings from $50 to $100 a month would be represent a substantial
gain for many CAA customers, but would not register on a scale
that defines financial well-being based on the assumptions and
experiences of the average American. In short, the scale is an
inappropriate measure and will not result in the collection of
useful data.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family
NPI Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
· Remove this
statement from the data collection form: Note: Tracking outcomes
for 180 days is the standard that agencies are expected to work
toward. The time frame of 90 days is included to allow agencies
with current limited capacity to report on this time frame and to
encourage quarterly review of data. The expectation is that
agencies will eventually report on the 180 day indicator. These
indicators would only be reported by those in a case management
program or similar intensive program where appropriate (i.e.
longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement leads the reader
to believe the future expectation will be much broader than
currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local agencies, and
the purpose and function of many of the programs operated by local
agencies. It should be edited to clearly state this is limited to
Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) activity.
Module
Section D: Individual and Family Services: (page # 68-75)
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No Comments
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Comment 111 (South Plain Community
Action Association ; State Association in TX)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 112 (Southeastern North
Dakota ; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in ND)
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Module 4: Individual and
Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
•Remove this report in its entirety. It is not
necessary for the proper performance of the functions of the
agency, and when rolled up to the state, the information has no
practical utility. At a state level it will be misinterpreted and
can be influenced by what happens in larger population
centers.
Two further points illustrate this issue.
First, the Characteristics report is of little use to determine if
the agency is responding to needs identified in its community
assessment. Demographic data alone does not identify the needs the
new customers may have and is therefore of limited utility in
comparison to data about individual, family, and community needs.
Second, since several core CAA programs (e.g. LIHEAP) have a large
number of new customers with limited or one time contact with the
agency, demographic data collected from the "low touch"
services would confuse meaningful analysis of demographic trends.
Third, many CAAs have to rely on data collected by their partners
and grantees (in the case of public agencies), many of whom may
have limited capacity to collect demographic data for new
individuals and households. Fourth, there are many practical
problems to identifying who constitutes a new customer or
household which also constitutes an additional data collection
burden on staff.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and
Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
Remove the indicator
for 180 days except in cases when reporting in conjunction with
the Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) when this time
frame is required. Local entities are not provided funding to
track those receiving services for that period of time, leading to
an inability to report the data. Remove it from Employment, Income
and Asset Building, Housing, and Health and Social/Behavioral
Development. Many of the data collection systems used by agencies
also simply lack the fields or variables to track time-related
data, making collection of this information burdensome at best and
impossible at worst.
Remove the Stability Indicators.
The options available do not provide data to answer the question
on the data collection form on page 67, "The following
outcome indicators answer the following commonly asked question:
How many people (or families) are 'better off/lives improved'
because of CAAs work?" The first option is duplicative effort
to collect the data, and does not provide meaningful information.
The second option uses a survey that is not specific to families
with low-incomes and is too general to provide information needed
or sought. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's Financial
Well-Being Scale relies on assumptions and definitions about what
constitutes "wellbeing drawn from the general population.
This will result in the collection of data of limited utility for
two reasons. First, compared to what constitutes financial
well-being as defined by working and middle class Americans, the
large majority of agency customers will be at the lowest end of
the scale, meaning there will be little variance in the data to
allow for meaningful comparison. Second, what constitutes
successful outcomes for most agency customers would only result in
slight changes on the scale. For example, doubling savings from
$50 to $100 a month would be represent a substantial gain for many
CAA customers, but would not register on a scale that defines
financial well-being based on the assumptions and experiences of
the average American. In short, the scale is an inappropriate
measure and will not result in the collection of useful
data.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI
Data Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
• Remove this
statement from the data collection form: Note: Tracking outcomes
for 180 days is the standard that agencies are expected to work
toward. The timeframe of 90 days is included to allow agencies
with current limited capacity to report on this time frame and to
encourage quarterly review of data. The expectation is that
agencies will eventually report on the 180 day indicator. These
indicators would only be reported by those in a case management
program or similar intensive program where appropriate (i.e.
longitudinal tracking). This sweeping statement leads the reader
to believe the future expectation will be much broader than
currently expected and exceeds the capacity of local agencies, and
the purpose and function of many of the programs operated by local
agencies. It should be edited to clearly state this is limited to
Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) activity.
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Comment 113 (Southern New Hampshire
Services ; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in NH)
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Module 4: - Individual and
Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
The value in collecting this data for compilation at a
national level seems dubious at best. If the purpose of this
information is to determine at a national level how many “new”
households utilize services at Community Action Agencies (CAAs) in
a given program year, that says nothing about the worth or
effectiveness of an agency. It also says nothing useful about the
needs of the individuals and households at a national level.
Additionally, it will in all likelihood not accurately measure new
households. Families frequently utilize CAAs over a period of time
which may span 2 or more years, depending on household
composition, needs, and services accessed. Agencies and even some
programs within agencies are likely to use different definitions
of “new.” They may also have issues retrieving
information from previous years to document when someone may have
received services previously, depending on the capacity of their
data collection and reporting system. All of this could lead to
skewed and essentially useless information at the national level.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Data
Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
A 180 day tracking period
presents challenges to program resources, even those with
sufficient case management resources in place. Tracking clients
for 6 months naturally leads to a larger number of active cases at
any one time, impacting staff and potentially impacting the
quality of client contact for smaller staffs. The term “strive
for” leaves the expectation of achieving that level of
tracking in question. Is it a best practice that typifies the
ideal, or is it a standard we should expect will be a requirement
at some point in the future for more programs, and what would that
look like?
Module 4, Section D: Individual and Family
Services: (page # 68-75)
The purpose of the new Data Entry
Forms and how they relate to the other sections of the report is
unclear. They gather data on individuals served with no
consideration of outcomes or context.
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Comment 114 (Southwest Oklahoma
Community Action ; Other/Unknown in OK)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 115 (State Of North Carolina;
State in NC)
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Module 4: Module 4 —
Individual and Family Level
Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
Consider including "total unduplicated number of all
individuals about whom no characteristics were obtained" and
"total unduplicated number of all households about whom no
characteristics were obtained". Based on the 2014 CSBG Annual
Report, the number individuals whom no characteristics were
obtained accounted for 20% of the 15.7 million individuals
reported. The number families whom no characteristics were
obtained accounted for 15% of the 6.7 million families reported.
Agencies in NC have indicated some funding sources prohibit
characteristics from being obtained. Omitting these items may
hinder full analysis and result in the appearance of less
individuals/ households being served than actually were. Further,
past data collected indicates serving individuals and households
for which characteristics are not obtained is part of the
community action story documenting services rendered. It should be
noted that there will be challenges and a lack of consistency with
defining, identifying and tracking new participants.
Module
4, Section B: All Characteristics Report: (page # 53-54)
Remove
all items that indicate an estimated number of individuals and
families not included in this report. There is no defined purpose
for nor a way to validate this information.
Module 4,
Section C
Remove "The expectation is that agencies will
eventually report on the 180 day indicator" and modify the
instructions to state that tracking information will not be
required for any CAA and that the report forms provide a place for
capturing follow up where it is appropriate. Other general points
are as follows:
•L Under the current annual
report structure, local agencies have 5 report sections in which
they may report. Under the proposed annual report structure, local
agencies have at least 9 sections in which they may report. ROMA
Next Gen should make every effort possible to streamline reporting
and decrease opportunities for misreporting. The accuracy and
ultimately quality of information gathered in the proposed report
is questionable as no single, agency-wide data collection software
has been offered as a
model for combining all community
action programs for tracking to meet the requirements of this
report with unduplicated information. Should such a system exist,
agencies would likely need additional funding to supplement the
related expense.
•L The estimated burden
associated with completing this Annual Report is likely
underestimated because of the unknown variables and significant
increase in information collected. u- North Carolina continues to
advocate for a National Goal that clearly links the Network's
effort to eliminate poverty since the primary purpose of CSBG is
poverty reduction, community revitalization and empowerment of
families to become self-sufficient as indicated in current
legislation. Specifically, we recommend a national goal that
speaks to poverty reduction that defines what poverty is and is
ultimately linked to performance indicators representing family
level movement up the % of poverty income scale.
North
Carolina's Office of Economic Opportunity believes that the
state's administrative oversight is the linchpin for successful
CSBG operations and has been active on all workgroups in
expressing feedback for every effort supporting the Performance
Management Framework. It is our hope that NC's experience,
expertise and commitment to ensuring that low-income families have
access to best available resources through CSBG will be given
consideration as ROMA Next Gen is vetted and finalized. We further
believe that NASCSP has a reputable history of progressive
leadership, qualified and committed staff and a track record of
demonstrated effectiveness in performance with ROMA and other CSBG
Training and Technical Assistance efforts. Therefore, we further
hope that OCS will accept final recommendations from NASCSP as to
what will best depict the work of the CSBG network. Together, we
are confident that we will achieve the desired breakthrough
results and demonstrate accountability and transparency while
stewarding the resources obtained through the Community Services
Block Grant.
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Comment 116 (Texas Association Of
Community Action Agencies, Inc. (TACAA); Other/Unknown in TX)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 117 (Texas Department Of
Housing And Community Affairs ; State in TX)
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Module 4: OVERALL COMMENTS FOR
MODULE 4: We strongly recommend removing the Landing Page; it only
adds another layer of information and it becomes cumbersome
requiring the user to toggle back and forth between the Landing
Page and the Data Entry Form. Simplify the process and go straight
to the Data Entry Form to enter information. Also, recommend the
removal of the 180 day standard and at the most requiring 90 days
for certain critical measures. It’s very difficult and
unrealistic to expect agencies to track persons for 180 days. In
Texas, for the past 25+ years we’ve been tracking data on
persons transitioned out of poverty for 90 days and it is
extremely difficult to get clients to return and provide
documentation once they are employed and no longer qualify for
services. Consider having one indicator/measure under Stability
where information is obtained on persons receiving case management
for at least 180 days and remove the 180 days from the other
domains e.g., Employment, Health and Social/Behavioral
Development.
Please clarify why the differentiation of
having a different set of NPIs for working and non-working such as
elderly or disabled was removed. It’s difficult to determine
under the new structure, which NPIs are for working or able to
work versus those that are elderly or disabled. In the current
NPIs, under 1.2. “Employment Support”, the structure
distinguishes between working persons and persons able to work;
and under the 6.4s, the population of seniors, disabled, and
caregivers.
MODULE 4 SECTION A
1. Module 4,
Section A Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households -
There is a need for a clear definition of “NEW Individuals
and Households.” Is this “new” in that the
participant has never been served by the community action agency
or new for the program year (unduplicated)?
MODULE 4
SECTION B
1. Module 4, Section B Proposed All
Characteristics Report, it is unclear if persons reported in
Section A also get reported in Section B “All
Characteristics Report.”
2. Recommend that
Module 4, Section A and Section B collect the same information.
This will streamline the collection of data for staff and support
a more efficient process for program development.
3.
Module 4, Section B, Section 13 Sources of Household Income,
recommend not having so many variations and deleting b., c., and
d. Consider separate choices for employment, other income source,
non-cash benefits, 2 sources, 3 or more sources instead of the
current combinations.
MODULE 4 SECTION C
1.
Module 4, Section C. Individual and Family NPIs – Data Entry
Forms recommend changing name of the % Achieved Column to % Served
to match the Served column. Also, for % Planning revise to be % of
Target Achieved or % of Planned Target Achieved.
2.
Module 4, Section C., Employment – #1. Next to the term
“youth,” add the age range for youth. Also, consider
not having #1 for youth and just merging it with # 2 adults, but
change it to be persons and not differentiate by age.
Module
4, Section C., Employment - #2. C. delete “up to a living
wage” because this is confusing or use the terms “below
a living wage.” Delete c. maintain employment for at least
180 days because this will be extremely difficult to document and
reporting will be very low.
Module 4, Section C.,
Employment - #2 c. the 180 day period to track is much too long.
It’s extremely difficult to get clients to return once they
obtain a job. A recommended time period is to not exceed 90 days.
Module 4, Section C., Employment - #3. Revise the term
“with a living wage or higher” to be “at or
above a living wage.” Texas anticipates very low numbers for
these measures based on past performance.
Module 4,
Section C., Employment - #4. “The number of employed
participants in a career advancement related program who entered
or transitioned into a position that provided increased income
and/or benefits.” Change this to read “The number of
employed participants who obtained increased income and/or
benefits.” The current language limits who can be reported.
Also, the vast majority of CSBG clients are not in a career
advancement related program. Second, merge #4.a.-c. To read “The
number of employed participants who obtained an increase in
employment income through wage/salary increases, an increase in
hours worked, or increased benefits.”
3. Module
4, Section C., Education and Cognitive Development, include in the
guide clear definitions for terms such as “emergent”,
“improved positive approaches”, “improved basic
education.” For “improved basic education” does
this include GED and Adult Basic Education or life skills? We are
not clear why the 180 day standard is at the top of the page.
MODULE 4 SECTION C
4. Module 4, Section C.,
Income and Asset Building, #1 after “basic needs”
include examples such as housing, food, transportation. For #8
define what constitutes net worth. If a short description is
possible, include it on the form.
5. Module 4, Section C.,
Housing, #2, it is unclear whether these measures pertain to
persons who obtained housing who were homeless? Please clarify.
Also, we recommend not qualifying this measure with the terms
“safe” and “affordable” housing that has
varying interpretations and also limits who can be reported.
Subsidized housing may not be affordable without assistance.
Delete 2.b. because 180 days is too long a period to track. For
#5-#7, ensure that the guide clearly describes the types of
programs can be reported. We recommend deleting #3 households who
avoided eviction and #4 households who avoided foreclosure. In
Texas, the vast majority of community action agencies do not
operate housing focused programs and we anticipate this to be the
similar in other states. If not removed, we suggest merging #3 and
#4. For #5-#7, expand instructions to clarify the programs or
grants concerned and if it is programs such as weatherization and
LIHEAP, state such.
6. Module 4, Section C., Health
and Social/Behavioral Development, for #2 individuals who
demonstrate improved physical health and well-being and #3
individuals who demonstrate improved mental and behavioral health
and well-being. Please clarify how “improvement” is
documented? We have concerns about how this improvement will be
documented. Would a questionnaire to the clients be adequate
documentation? Consider having measure read “The number of
individuals who received services targeted to improve physical
health and well-being.” Also, it’s unclear why there
is a need to break down the data into 4 age groups and the
ultimate value of the information? What is going to be done with
this data? To ease reporting burden, recommend not breaking it
into age groups. For #2, what kinds of services are reported? Do
services include food, utilities, and medical?
#4
“Families who improve skills related to adult role as
parents/caregivers.” How are improved skills determined and
documented? Consider using the current language in NPIs 6.3J and K
or state “the number of families who received education or
services to improve their skills or functioning in their role as a
parent/caregiver.”
#5 “The number of
parents/caregivers who demonstrate increased sensitivity and
responsiveness in their interactions with their children.”
How would a sub recipient document “increased sensitivity
and responsiveness ….”? We recommend deleting this
measure.
#6-#8, The reporting of #6, “The number
of seniors who maintain an independent living situation”; #7
“The number of individuals with disabilities who maintain an
independent living situation”; and #8, “The number of
individuals with chronic illness who maintain an independent
living situation”; is reported following a 90 and 180 days
tracking. The number of tracking days is too long. Also the
breakdown of data into three separate groups of individuals is an
added burden. At most #7 and #8 can be grouped. Also recommend not
tracking them for 90 or 180 days which is an additional reporting
burden. Also, it doesn’t state in the description “as
a result of services provided,” that it means as a result of
CAA services. Please clarify. In the guide,
MODULE
4 SECTION C
describe what kind of services or assistance
would this be referring to. Preference is with the current
reporting format of NPIs for 6.1’s and the 6.4s. The 6.4s
show the variety of assistance that is provided to stabilize the
vulnerable populations.
#9 “The number of
individuals with no recidivating event for 6 months,” is not
clear regarding the relevance of reporting this measure for the
community action network. Is this about involvement in criminal
justice system only or also school delinquency? Recommend
reporting more positive measures for youth such as the current
NPIs of 6.3 E thru 6.3 I.
7. Module 4, Section C.,
Civic Engagement and Community Involvement, #1 “The number
of Community Action program participants who increase skills,
knowledge, and abilities to enable them to work with Community
Action to improve conditions in the community.” Concern with
the measure are the words “to enable them to work with
Community Action” because this restricts who to report in
this area. Persons may be gaining skills or volunteering to assist
other schools or other organizations and not necessarily community
action. Recommend revising language and expand community. Example,
“The number of Community Action program participants who
increase skills, knowledge, and abilities to enable them to
improve their community.” Delete a.i. “number who
become engaged in a leadership role.” Very detailed and we
anticipate that activity would be minimal.
For #1.b.
“number who improve their social networks,” the term
“social network” is really not commonly understood or
utilized. We recommend using another term or not collecting this
data. Also, if they volunteer, don’t they automatically
improve their social networks? What is meant by “social
network”? Is it the circle of persons that they associate
with?
For #1.c. “number …. Who gain other
skills, knowledge and abilities to enhance their ability to
engage?” How is this going to be measured and documented?
What exactly are we measuring? If it is necessary to collect,
redefine and perhaps merge with #1.a. and expand and broaden
language so it does not imply that they will be able to
demonstrate or measure this improvement.
8. Module 4,
Section C, Individual and Family NPIs, #1 “the number of
individuals who achieve one or more outcomes as identified by the
NPI in various domains.” The achievement of one or more
outcomes in various domains does not necessarily mean that a
person or household is more stable. This is also adding another
layer of reporting which may not be necessary. The issue of
whether an individual achieved one or more outcomes may not be the
basis of the measure, but whether they are successful. Recommend
deleting this measure or using another term other than stability.
In initial discussions, we did discuss bundled
services and that persons who received bundled services had better
outcomes. An alternative is to simplify the measure of persons who
received one or more services and remove the implication that this
leads to stability because for the vast majority of the
households, it is only helping them for the short term. Narrowing
the measure to those who achieved one or more outcomes in
employment, education, and/or income and asset building may be a
good indication of longer term stability.
#2 “The
number of individuals engaged with the Community Action Agency who
report improved financial well-being.” Consider moving this
measure to Income and Asset Building category because it appears
to be a more appropriate location.
MODULE 4 SECTION D
1. It would good to remove Section D so that Module 4
doesn’t have another section. The report is lengthy and will
be very time consuming for staff to prepare and track. If Section
D can be merged some way with Section C, that would be ideal. So,
for example, a way to merge one would be in Module 4.C. Education
category, in #6, add in parenthesis (Adult Literacy classes,
English classes, Basic Education Classes, Leadership Training).
Then for Module 4.C. Education category, #7 “obtain a high
school diploma or equivalency” just add in parenthesis
(GED).
2. Recommend incorporating NPI codes to
facilitate references to sections. For clarity, sections should
refer to Module 4.C. and each service/activity should state what
Module 4, Section C. it relates to. As an example, in Adult
Education Programs, there could be added in parenthesis (Module
4.C.6.).
3. How does this section relate to Module
4.C.? Is this to capture those that were enrolled only and they do
not have to have achieved an outcome? More importantly, if the
organization did not provide the service but referred the person
to another organization for the service, would the client be
reported in this section only if the sub recipient verified
enrollment with the other organization or do they also have to
document achievement of the outcome?
4. Also recommend
establishing a definition of “individuals served” in
column two.
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Comment 118 (The State Of New York
Community Action Association ; State Association in NY)
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Module 4: Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
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This report should be removed as it does nothing to contribute to
the critical function of a CAA and when aggregated on the state
level, provides no useful information Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
·
Except when required by the Workforce Investment and Opportunity
Act (WIOA), the indicator for 180 days should be removed in all
sections. It is difficult if not impossible to track most
customers for that period of time and there is therefore little
value to asking CAAs to go to the time and expense required for
such long term data collection.
· The Stability
Indicators should be removed as they do little to help answer the
question of whether people’s lives are improved because of
the services received from a CAA. Because the majority of CAAs
customers have very low incomes, the improvements they make would
not be significant as measured by the suggested tools and scales
and the most commonly used measures of financial well-being are
based on the general population and therefore are not relevant to
the experiences of the low income people who are served by CAAs.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Data
Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
· The statement that 180
day tracking is the standard agencies should work toward should be
removed. This statement strongly indicates that this will be the
expectation in the future, an unrealistic and unproductive goal
with the exception of Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act
(WIOA) activity.
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Comment 119 (TN Department Human
Services ; State in TN)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 120 (Tompkins Community
Action ; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in NY)
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Module 4: 1. The baseline
report: As much as NCAF wishes there was a credible and
cost-effective method for tracking Community Action individual and
family participants over time, those most expert in our network’s
field data and technology systems have identified huge barriers
and costs to attaining and linking data to individuals for a
period of years, especially when following their successful
passage into economic security. We have proposed OCS undertake a
pilot program, funded by grants and implemented by willing
Community Action Agencies, so that they may design and test a
system of multi-year tracking for large numbers of program
participants.
2. The report on services delivered is an
extensive exercise to list outputs instead of outcomes. Many
Community Action Agencies are enthusiastic about substituting such
a report for ROMA NPIs.
We believe it will not be useful in
telling the story to policymakers, nor should it be a requirement.
It appears to be a step backwards from a focus on results.
However, it is an elegant tool for states and local agencies that
choose to use it for their own purposes, and it should be made
widely available, along with training on how to use it.
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Comment 121 (Total Action For
Progress ; Other/Unknown in VA)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 123 (Tri County Community
Action ; Other/Unknown in MN)
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Module 4: - Individual and
Family Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
Remove this. Gathering data specifically on “new”
individuals and households is not clear how this would be useful.
If agencies do not operate programs that only interact with
clients on a single basis per year such as LIHEAP, this would
confuse data that on programs that work with clients on a long
term basis or goal oriented.
Module 4, Section C:
Individual and Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
This
appears to be duplicative and would not produce useful
information. How does this help? The definition of well-being to a
low-income person is different than that of middle class persons.
A change such as opening a savings account and consistently saving
would have a much different and larger impact to a local agency
customer that it would for a mainstream consumer.
Module
4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Data Entry Forms: (page #
56-67)
Specific tracking outcomes would be dependent on the
program and may be more appropriate for case management intensive
programs and would be beyond the capacity of all local agency
programs.
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Comment 124 (U.S Department Of Health
And Human Service ; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in DC)
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Module 4: Module 4—
Individual and Family Level
In this module, all of the new
requirements and proposed changes would require IT software
changes that could potentially be costly; and the costs would have
to be absorbed by our eligible entities. The new requirements
would require additional staff time and
effort for the State
CSBG Office and our eligible entities to track, collect, and
report this data and information. Training and technical
assistance for the State CSBG Office and our eligible entities
would be necessary and could be costly; and our eligible entities
would have to pay for their costs.
Section A:
Characteristics for NEW Individuals and Households
This
proposed report is new and would probably work for describing the
people who come to an eligible entity for services for the first
time, but it is unlikely it would be useful beyond that, and it
really is not necessary for eligible entity performance. Our State
CSBG Office and eligible entities agree that this new requirement
would be too costly (IT software changes) for something that
appears would only provide little benefit. This report should be
removed.
Section C: Individual and Family NPls
In
regards to the expectation that eligible entities track outcomes
for 180 days: This section should be clarified to state that these
requirements should only apply to community action programs that
have this tracking mechanism included in their program design. The
language stating that the expectation is that all eligible
entities will be able to report this data in the future should be
removed.
In regards to requiring eligible entities to
report targets: Our state sees the Individual and Family Level
NPIs Report as a tool for reporting and showing eligible entity
individual and family level outcomes (telling the story), not as a
planning and analysis tool. Our eligible entities stated that they
use their client and community needs assessment data, program
specific data, and other local data and information for program
planning and implementation; rarely do they use the data and
information from their Individual and Family Level NPls Report for
planning and analysis.
The State CSBG Office and our
eligible entities agree that the eligible entities should report
their outcomes annually to the state and OCS. Therefore, we
suggest the targeting component be removed from this report and
the report focus on collecting community action performance data
and information solely.
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Comment 125 (Vermont Community Action
Partnership ; Other/Unknown in VT)
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2. Module 4: Remove the
Characteristics for New Individuals and Households Report. This
report has very little if any practical utility at the local level
in most cases, and will be a significant net drain on agency
resources, given the time and expense required to create it at
each local agency. This is not necessary for agency performance
(and may in fact contribute to diminishing it), and the intentions
outlined by OCS for its use are not reflective of how local
agencies and states look at their communities to assess needs,
develop programs, and report progress. It also lacks utility at
the state level given that data such as this rolled up to the
state level will often be skewed by large population centers and
will therefore decrease the practical utility of the data even
further. In addition, many agencies, including those in Vermont,
either lack management information systems with the capacity to
disaggregate this type of data from its overall customer database,
or struggle to integrate the required data given their use of
multiple (and often incompatible) reporting systems required by
our disparate funding sources. Moreover, since our agencies serve
many families over time, with no definition of “new”
being provided for review, the CSBG network will be unable to
implement this report consistently. Defining an individual or
family as new becomes challenging when they may receive different
services over many years (e.g. Head Start / Early HS, child care,
afterschool programs, youth services, job training / readiness,
food, fuel, homelessness prevention, small business support,
financial literacy, IDAs, income tax assistance, senior services,
etc.).
Module 4: Module 4 – Individual and Family
Level: (pages 51-75)
Module 4, Section A:
Characteristics for New Individuals and Households: (page # 52)
Remove this report in its entirety. It is not necessary for
the proper performance of the functions of local agencies, and
when rolled up to the state, the information has no practical
utility. At a state level it will be misinterpreted and can be
unduly influenced by what happens in larger population centers.
Four further points illustrate this issue: First, the
Characteristics report is of little use to determine if the agency
is responding to needs identified in its community assessment.
Demographic data alone does not identify the needs the new
customers may have and is therefore of limited utility in
comparison to data about individual, family, and community needs.
Second, since several core CAA programs (e.g. LIHEAP) have a large
number of new customers with limited or one time contact with the
agency, demographic data collected from the “low touch”
services would confuse meaningful analysis of demographic trends.
Third, many CAAs have to rely on data collected by their partners,
many of whom may have limited capacity to collect demographic data
for new individuals and households. Fourth, there are many
practical problems to identifying what constitutes a new customer
or household, which also creates an additional data collection
burden on staff.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and
Family NPI Landing Page: (page # 55-57)
1. Remove the
indicator for 180 days except in cases when reporting in
conjunction with the Workforce Investment and Opportunity Act
(WIOA) when this time frame is required. Local entities are not
provided funding to track those receiving services for that period
of time, leading to a significant financial / infrastructure
burden and often an inability to report the data. Remove it from
Employment, Income and Asset Building, Housing, and Health and
Social/Behavioral Development. Many of the data collection systems
used by agencies also simply lack the fields or variables to track
time-related data, making collection of this information
burdensome at best and impossible at worst.
2. Remove
the Stability Indicators. The options available do not provide
data to answer the question on the data collection form on page
67, “The following outcome indicators answer the following
commonly asked question: How many people (or families) are 'better
off/lives improved’ because of CAAs work?” The first
option is a duplicative effort to collect the data, and does not
provide meaningful information. The second option uses a survey
that is not specific to families with low-incomes and is too
general to provide information needed or sought. The Consumer
Financial Protection Bureau’s Financial Well-Being Scale
relies on assumptions and definitions about what constitutes
“well-being” drawn from the general population. This
will result in the collection of data of limited utility for two
reasons: First, compared to what constitutes financial well-being
as defined by working and middle class Americans, the large
majority of agency customers will be at the lowest end of the
scale, meaning there will be too little variance in the data to
allow for meaningful comparison. Second, what constitutes
successful outcomes for most agency customers would only result in
slight changes on the scale. For example, doubling savings from
$50 to $100 a month would represent a substantial gain for many
CAA customers, but would not register on a scale that defines
financial well-being based on the assumptions and experiences of
the average American. In short, the scale is an inappropriate
measure and will not result in the collection of useful data.
Module 4, Section C: Individual and Family NPI Data
Entry Forms: (page # 56-67)
Remove this statement from the
data collection form: Note: Tracking outcomes for 180 days is the
standard that agencies are expected to work toward. The time frame
of 90 days is included to allow agencies with current limited
capacity to report on this time frame and to encourage quarterly
review of data. The expectation is that agencies will eventually
report on the 180 day indicator. These indicators would only be
reported by those in a case management program or similar
intensive program where appropriate (i.e. longitudinal tracking).
This sweeping statement leads the reader to believe the future
expectation will be much broader than currently expected and
exceeds the capacity of local agencies, and the purpose and
function of many of the programs operated by local agencies. It
should be edited to clearly state this is limited to Workforce
Investment and Opportunity Act (WIOA) activity or to any other
programs whose funders require that follow-up outcome data.
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Comment 126 (Vernon Community Action
Council, Inc.; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in LA)
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Module 4: No COMMENT
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Comment 127 (Virginia Community
Action Partnership ; State Association in VA)
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Module 4: Regarding Module 4,
we are concerned about the characteristics for “new”
individuals and households report. This is only one of the areas
where we are deeply concerned about the lack of information
systems at the local agency level and the inability to integrate
multiple (and sometimes incompatible) reporting systems for
programs and services. We do not think that collection of this
data meets the standard of practical utility, particularly due to
the time and expense of data collection at each local agency as
well as our concern about whether data will be able to be reported
consistently across the network. Many agencies serve families over
a period of time, and with no clear definition of a “new”
family, there is a real concern about how to reflect services
provided to a family that receives different community action
services over a period of years. Regarding Module 4, the
stability indicators are a source of concern. The indicators
selected for stability appear to duplicate data already collected
(in one option) and use a tool for financial stability that does
not reference assumptions for low-income people and families (in
another option). It would appear that any data collected in this
area would be of limited utility at best, and we would recommend
removal of the stability indicators.
Regarding Module
4, Section A-Characteristics for “NEW” Individuals and
Households, we recommend removing this document because it will
not produce quality data. In addition, there is a challenge in
providing a consistent definition of who constitutes a new
customer. Agencies that use multiple reporting systems will have a
new burden of tracking new customers across all programs and
services delivered by the agency.
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Comment 129 (Western New York
Community Action Agency; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in NY)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 130 (Wisconsin Community
Action Program Association ; State Association in WI)
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Module 4: * The requirements
for baseline characteristics will require a collection of
information before any services are provided – an activity
which is both time-consuming for staff and financially burdensome
for the agency
We believe the progress made to date
(since January 2011) in the development of ROMA: Next Generation
is significant and we want to keep moving forward. In doing so, we
must be sure the final product has value at all levels; is
realistic given existing financial resources, technological
capacity, diversity of the network, and is sensitive to the
burdens placed on states and local agencies.
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Comment 131 (Wisconsin Department Of
Children And Families; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in WI)
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Section B: All Characteristics
Report: (page # 53-54)
3. Education Levels: I do not
believe it is useful to track the education level of individuals
ages 14-24 as a group. Since this group includes both minors and
young adults, data about the group’s education level would
not be meaningful. For example, having an 8th grade education is
entirely different for a 14-year-old who is currently in 9th grade
and on track to graduate from high school than it is for a
22-year-old individual.
4. Disconnected Youth: This is
data is a very good addition to the demographic form.
7.
Military Status: This is data is a very good addition to the
demographic form.
15. Non-Cash Benefits: I believe this
is very useful information to track. I know that some agencies in
my state’s network have expressed the view that collecting
this information will be overly burdensome, but if nothing else it
will cue agency staff to help people connect to benefits for which
they are eligible.
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Comment 132 (Work And Family Support
Bureau; Other/Unknown in NM)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 133 (WSOS Community Action;
Eligible Entity/Local Agency in OH)
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Module 4: No Comment
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Comment 134 (York County Community
Action ; Eligible Entity/Local Agency in ME)
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Module 4: * Remove the
expectation that all organizations will have 100% unduplicated
data. We certainly strive to de-duplicate our information,
however, with a robust transportation program, we cannot guarantee
that our number of riders is unduplicated without undue burden on
our systems.
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